NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

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NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Cash » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:20 pm

Those Assholes at Valve wrote:Patch notes

Added Something Special For Someone Special
Added the Snapped Pupil
Added a new promo item
Updated the Heavy's Sandvich so it will only resupply ammo if the owner picks it up after dropping it. This means the only way to gain health from the Sandvich is by eating it.
Fixed the RED/BLU team skins not working on the Bonk Boy with the new styles
Updated the in-game trading system to use the Steam trading menus
Updated these items so they can be traded and crafted:
The Warsworn Helmet
The Bolgan
The Bolgan Family Crest
The Merc Medal
The Battle Bob
The Bushman's Boonie
Updated cp_gravelpit
Fixed z-fighting on the fan in the RED spawn building
Fixed RED Engineers building inside their spawn room
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Undocumented changes
Added the Black Rose


Updated the Heavy's Sandvich so it will only resupply ammo if the owner picks it up after dropping it. This means the only way to gain health from the Sandvich is by eating it.


only way to gain health from the Sandvich is by eating it.



R.I.P. sandvich [9/19/08-2/14/12]


But in all seriousness, wtf is valve doing here???
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Vivi Hill » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:23 pm

Even though I do highlander heavy, I can see where they're coming from with this. I barely ever eat my sandvich, just plop it down and pick it up. It basically gives me a little more health. It's not what they intended, so it makes sense they're nerfing it.

I presume it can still be used to heal teammates, though. If not then that's something I'm disappointed about. I liked being able to help my medic out with a sandvich.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Koopa » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:27 pm

Now I need a real sandvich instead of the steak. :cry:
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Cash » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:28 pm

Benny Hill wrote:Even though I do highlander heavy, I can see where they're coming from with this. I barely ever eat my sandvich, just plop it down and pick it up. It basically gives me a little more health. It's not what they intended, so it makes sense they're nerfing it.

I presume it can still be used to heal teammates, though. If not then that's something I'm disappointed about. I liked being able to help my medic out with a sandvich.


Exactly, I pretty much use the sandvich exclusively to heal medics. Idk what I will do if we can't still do that. I don't really mind if they just get rid of the ability to heal yourself. It sucks, but I could live with that I guess.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Wakka » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:29 pm

I think the beta version could still heal teammates; it would be odd if they removed that without testing.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by doppelganger » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:36 pm

Wakka wrote:I think the beta version could still heal teammates; it would be odd if they removed that without testing.

^this

They updated in game trade to be more like steams? terrible?

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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Cash » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:43 pm

Wakka wrote:I think the beta version could still heal teammates; it would be odd if they removed that without testing.


That's always good news......wait, there are still people who ACTUALLY play beta??!!?1!!!?? lolz
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by FlamingOwlOfDeath » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:30 pm

All I can say is that if sandvich can't heal medics...FML.

But in all honesty, we did know this day was coming. I just wish they could have waited a while longer before nerfing it.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Jettrax » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:50 pm

Wow this is bullshit. I always drop it to restore teammates health and my own, now i may have to equip the shotgun or something.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Rologton » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:29 pm

Honestly the way it worked before effectively gave the Heavy 450 HP. This was kind of necessary. Now if he wants to heal himself he has to be vulnerable and out of action. It still heals teammates, though (or else what would be the point of dropping it in the first place) so it's still a really good and team oriented unlock.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Koopa » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:33 pm

Rologton wrote:Honestly the way it worked before effectively gave the Heavy 450 HP. This was kind of necessary. Now if he wants to heal himself he has to be vulnerable and out of action. It still heals teammates, though (or else what would be the point of dropping it in the first place) so it's still a really good and team oriented unlock.

I can deal with that, but why not test it first? Maybe they didn't want the feedback like this from the beta players.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Rologton » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:35 pm

Koopa wrote:
Rologton wrote:Honestly the way it worked before effectively gave the Heavy 450 HP. This was kind of necessary. Now if he wants to heal himself he has to be vulnerable and out of action. It still heals teammates, though (or else what would be the point of dropping it in the first place) so it's still a really good and team oriented unlock.

I can deal with that, but why not test it first? Maybe they didn't want the feedback like this from the beta players.

It's been in beta for a while. They changed it along with the Tomislav changes.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by mrpikmin2 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:15 pm

Rologton wrote:Honestly the way it worked before effectively gave the Heavy 450 HP. This was kind of necessary. Now if he wants to heal himself he has to be vulnerable and out of action. It still heals teammates, though (or else what would be the point of dropping it in the first place) so it's still a really good and team oriented unlock.

Exactly. I've seen frag videos of pro heavies that just surf of a soldier's rocket into their sandvich they throw right below them and spin up and mow them down. Making it so it only heals teammates OR forces you to taunt is a great idea. Plus I actually enjoy the ability to repick up the sandvich, if the team's medic is down I try to camp hp packs and heal teammates watching chokepoints.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Wakka » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:10 am

yeah guys, it still heals teammates, don't hurt yourselves
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Vivi Hill » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:51 am

Actually it should be interesting to have the Sandvich as an ammokit. Sometimes I run out of ammo and it might be useful. I guess it's 100 boolet like any other dropped item?
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by TheMcGib » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:02 am

It's sad and interesting at the same time. Does anybody know how much ammo it restores?
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by mrpikmin2 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:24 am

If I understand correctly it just fills your sandwich meter back up.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Ph33r » Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:07 am

Fucking Bullshit! Cry baby Heavy haters ruin everything! This is the worse day of my life! I hope everyone is happy!
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Cash » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:46 pm

mrpikmin2 wrote:If I understand correctly it just fills your sandwich meter back up.


Yeah, it doesn't dispense ammo. It just refills the sandvich meter :/
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Vivi Hill » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:52 pm

Meh, it's been all right. In highlander I generally just give sandvich to FlamingoWoolOfDeath.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by medkitz » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:23 pm

Benny Hill wrote:Meh, it's been all right. In highlander I generally just give sandvich to FlamingoWoolOfDeath.


I enjoy this update, when i pyro (which is always) its a pain to kill heavy with an axtinguisher when the sandvich just extinguishes him
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Zeno293 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:35 pm

medkitz wrote:
Benny Hill wrote:Meh, it's been all right. In highlander I generally just give sandvich to FlamingoWoolOfDeath.


I enjoy this update, when i pyro (which is always) its a pain to kill heavy with an axtinguisher when the sandvich just extinguishes him


how is it possible a sandwich can douse fire
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by THATGUYWHOEATS » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:37 pm

Zeno293 wrote:how is it possible a sandwich can douse fire


You rub it all over yourself, this absorbs the fire and leads to a delicious toasty sandvich.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by TheMcGib » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:23 am

toasty! toasty!
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by medkitz » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:34 am

THATGUYWHOEATS wrote:
Zeno293 wrote:how is it possible a sandwich can douse fire


You rub it all over yourself, this absorbs the fire and leads to a delicious toasty sandvich.


When you get an amount of health in an instant besides a medic's healing, it will extinguish the fire.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by Bullet Whiz » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:13 pm

That is all I did with the sandvich now I guess I'm stuck with a normal non family business shotgun.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by BoB Dolen » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:13 pm

medkitz wrote:
Benny Hill wrote:Meh, it's been all right. In highlander I generally just give sandvich to FlamingoWoolOfDeath.


I enjoy this update, when i pyro (which is always) its a pain to kill heavy with an axtinguisher when the sandvich just extinguishes him


Airblast?
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by medkitz » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:08 pm

BoB Dolen wrote:
medkitz wrote:
Benny Hill wrote:Meh, it's been all right. In highlander I generally just give sandvich to FlamingoWoolOfDeath.


I enjoy this update, when i pyro (which is always) its a pain to kill heavy with an axtinguisher when the sandvich just extinguishes him


Airblast?


When i go on a literal 12+ killing spree, i tend to forget to control my ammo usage.
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Re: NOOOO THEY BROKE SANDVICH!!!!

by cloud » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:22 pm

All this was was a ton of people going, "OH WAHHH. This heavy was almost dead and i would have killed him if he hadn't thrown his sandvich on the ground to heal himself! I feel like making other players suffer because I am incapable of retreating and grabbing a medkit!"
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