Illegal Filesharing - Stupid companies

[Balubish]

So kinda pissed off on how stupid these big ass companies still are after over 20 years now of filesharing.

Today in Swedish news a site called Swefilmer.se have been shut down and the guy running it for 4 years "now" got busted for it.
And I love reading comments and see how stupid ppl really are that dont understand how it works in the big picture.
One guy said "I have a company, why are you guys so cheap stealing movies etc"
In sweden more than 10% of the population are using filesharing or streaming services from big sites just like this one. 60% of those are below 30yr old that uses it frequently the article said and is probably true.

But here is the catch that "I have a company and can afford it " that arrogant prick, what he and similar thinking animals dont understand. Shit needs to evolve.
Over the 20 years I've known about and used filesharing since Napster, DC++, Torrent is that. Later years I have started using Netflix, Viaplay etc and dont fileshare that much anymore.
Mainly I have no time, cause I play TF2 instead But these companies doesnt matter if its a Swedish or US or whatever.

They still think that if the movie is downloaded 100k times, they lost that money. Its a fatass wrong in that calculations, cause they think 100% of those would be earnings. And literally think that these ppl would watch it on the movies or at all. 1st problem, they cant calculate estimated views with earnings lost. Stupid and greedy as these companies are the still do and still bitch about after 20 fucking years!!!

Netflix is a good thing, but it have so little compared to filesharing site or streaming site. 20 years ppl and they havent learned it yet. Cause its old fucktards running these companies and refuse to listen to young ppl and I bet they are greedy as fuck and thats why they think they can milk everyone on it. These sites provide all the content you need in one big place, movies, series, porn, music, games, whatever you want.
You need one login. Its simple and it happens to be free.

20 years companies have bitched about this problem, but what have they done in 20 years. Well now we have spotify that is very popular. We have netflix that sort of is popular but still dont have complete or full series or many series or movies at all. Cause other companies own them. They dont have GoT for example that is a huge series cause if I dont recall wrong HBO owns it.
These greedy and stupid ppl have basicly solved the music deal in 20 years but not the rest. They complain "They steal our movie and see it before it releases on the theatre" uuuh yeah, you have leak in your fucking company.

So lets keep it real, modern societies are lazy fucks. I dont want a login to CNN to watch a program there, another one on HBO, another on Netflix etc to be able to watch the stuff I like.
That is the main reason if you ask me that have been on several filesharing communities in the past "No streaming services though". But they all in 20 years have been easy to use and you have all the stuff under the same roof "Site".

To solve this I think otherwise they wont kill filesharing/streaming at all is the make a main site for all companies, HBO, SONY, Warner and so on and have everything, just like Swefilmer, Piratebay etc.
And they could do packages for what you like and so that ppl can choose. $20 Series Package 40$ + Movies etc. Or split it in categories. It can be solved. I would use it hands down.
I like Netflix, but I dont like that lack of content and not complete series on even old series that are out several years ago. And a really small library of movies that interest me at all. Its incomplete as hell.

So why do you think they havent solved it? My personal thinking is as always greedy fucks. Big fat fucks that are billionares that want moar!
Lord of the rings gained all the costs the first week in the theatre for all 3 movies, after the first week and the other 2 movies was just profit. How the hell is that losing money?
Well not all companies goes well, but all movies arent great either.

I dont support filesharing and think you should buy for the stuff you want. But I have been using filesharing so I understand why ppl use it for the easy access of all the content in one place.
And I really think thats the only way they can solve it, big site with all the movies and series that you might want to watch, instead of several places.
Music and gaming "Steam" have done a pretty good job so far I think. Now its series and movies left to make a jump to kill filesharing/streaming to make it less attractive for consumers.

So what is your view in this matter?

[xalde]

It's taken me quite some time to figure out what I wanted to add say, that and trying to sort through Balubish's rants to find what his arguments were =P, and in the end all it will be are just observations/comments of my own.

The business world is holding onto the ancient ways of sectioning everyone into regions. Think DVDs, how USA and Canada can only play region 1 DVDs, I think the Eurozone and Japan has region 2, Austrailia (and Mexico surprisingly) have region 4, etc. Now I know there are some region free items out there, but in my case I really want to buy some british TV series and movies (Him & Her, Clooney Brown), but I can't because they won't play in my DVD player unless I buy one that plays all regions or buy one that plays for the specific region.

Exact same applies for video games. For instance Xenoblade Chronicles for the Wii, an amazing game, is incredibly rare and expensive now in the states but can now be downloaded off the e-shop in Japan and Europe. Or how Mother 3, a fantastic GBA game that has been translated semi-professionally by fans, is still only legally playable on Japanese devices and still not able to be officially played elsewhere.

Then there are items that just aren't sold everywhere. I can understand this, it may be something only relevant to that certain region (Eurovision CDs, video game soundtracks, etc). I also know that these items can be imported, though sometimes with difficulty or great expense.

So what are people supposed to do when they want something that isn't sold or offered in their area? Sometimes if they really want to show support they'll fork over the extra money to buy it officially, but in some cases that's just not possible. So they turn to file-sharing and acquiring these items in not-so-legal ways, because that is the only way for those people to enjoy these products.

Example: Nintendo released an amazing soundtrack for Mario Kart 8. I wanted this, but it was only offered through a special Club Nintendo program and only for Japan and the Eurozone. Not available to purchase physically or digitally. Check eBay, and they're going for $40 or more plus shipping. Kinda expensive for a 2-disc CD set. So if I want this I either have to cough up the money or find some way to download it, and I'm not quite comfortable dishing out that kind of money for a soundtrack regardless of how great it is.

Businesses really should become more global, meaning that sure they can focus on a certain region, but should make products available for all, and without region-locking the items. That would be one way to help slow some of the file-sharing, possibly anyway. And maybe the "loss" acquired by people file-sharing or acquiring these items illegally doesn't outweigh the cost of having to produce it for that language or the cost of offering it for sale in that area. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. But something is still not right, and I see a lot of room for improvement.

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The other argument I think I'm seeing here is similar to the problem of Cable or Satellite TV packages. You're forced to buy a certain package if you only want a specific show or movie channel. There is no "select what channels you want and pay so much per channel" option. Or how there are various streaming options with some but little overlap. So if you wanted to watch an HBO show you'd have to get an HBO account, or something might be on Netflix but not Hulu or vice versa. I blame this on greedy business practices, which I can understand because businesses need money to operate and survive, but it has the feel of screwing over the customer rather than serving the customer.

Ha, that brings a fun question. What would ethical business practices be, or what would be some unethical ones be? Are the "program packages" unethical? Or are they just simply inconvenient?

[Balubish]

I really like your post Xalde. Brings up other issues with the digital world, some I didnt even think about. But yeah sounds about right that not everything is sold everywhere. And that brings up a big fat

And yes there are alot of issues in this matter global. The goverments worldwide basicly think they solve filesharing but putting a few guys in jail, to make a scary example??? Makes no sense right?
Instead they do that but they should work and think out a way to solve it, the main reason I see why they cant, cause they are greedy bastards to the bone. They are used to as you say the VHS / DVD era.
Wich everyone know, doesnt cost that much to print DVD's etc, and a streaming service would be 10000 times cheaper for them, but still they want the same cost as an DVD for example even though you get worse quality.

Cooming from Sweden I should know about the Piratebay case right? Yes They all 3 got jail time and like 10million frikkin dollars that they will never be able to pay off just to make a scary example.
Because they didnt close the site. What I have read in news about it, the site was down about 2 days tops.
They goverment tried to close it, but basicly cant stop smarter younger ppl that understand this tech at all. It have been up for the whole time. They basicly want to fight the ppl instead of listen to them.
Kinda like politics here in Sweden now, they think that lying to the ppl and get away with it is a normal thing. Now ppl are starting to get really pissed off over here.-

100politics vs 100000 regular ppl, who wins that fight, yes the ppl. Do they listen to us, no. They dont give a fuck.

I picked up Netflix couple years ago, and sure they have some, but not even close to bring what a filesharer are used too.
Example: I like Top Gear. Netflix have 1 special episode, thats fuckin it?! If they want ppl not to download especially cause I like the show, and know there are more than 20 seasons or something like that.
Where are they? Wasnt Netflix supposed to offer the legal deal? Im I jumping to fast in the future?
Personally I could pay they double "wich it will come to over a 10 years period I've heard" I would not have a problem with that at all. IF and thats a big one, offered me something. They have like 10 series that might interest me, havent checked them all out. Movies, yeah, they are all awesome, around year 2000. "Facepalm"

Filesharing have been and will continue to be a big problem I think as long as they dont listen to ppl and stop with these as you explain it, locked out countries or whatever it is.

Sidenote. I even tested it, but if I change google to read as I am in US, it brings up even more shows and movies than with Swedish Google Chrome. There is a big fucking problem as well.
Is the boss at Netflix like, they will never find out. Man those ppl are so stupid.