Wait, are we hating on North Carolina?

[Saber]

BECAUSE WE TOTALLY FUCKING ARE
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/05 ... ml?_r=2&hp
FUCK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS
LIKE DUDE
ARE YOU ACTUALLY SHITTING ME
WORST STATE.
You are literally denying equal rights based upon the ideals of an insane few.
Oh, my sister also sent me this.
"also, voter fraud up the fucking wazoo
i have a LJ friend who lives in NC
and she and her friends experienced it first hand
told to either go somewhere else to vote or use provisional ballot (aka not vote on amendment one)
or the amendment was on the back"
YAY YAY AMERICA! AMERICA!

[Spyder]

The government/state should stay out of marriage altogether.

[Nikki Wolf]

This news saddens me, as a citizen of North Carolina. I know I'm in the minority of this (especially in my county, where I think 1 in 5 voted against the amendment), but honestly, I think people should have got their heads out of their asses and realized that this amendment affects everyone in North Carolina, even if it's later in life. Well, it's not too late to make plans of moving to another state, especially one where I can actually marry my boyfriend when the time comes.

[Stolloss]

The reason we are not hating on North Carolina is this:

North Carolina is the 30th state to adopt such a ban on gay marriage.

Why go after one when you can go after 30?

[Smeemo]

Besides the idiocy of the LET'S HATE US SOME GAYS mentality, it's just awful legislation, affecting common law marriages and abused spouses...

[Smeemo]

Good article:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/05 ... gay-people

[Maringue]

Why have just have a law banning sax sex marriage when you can have a law AND a constitutional amendment?

I'm pretty sure our Constitution was specifically designed to prevent shit like this, aka the tyranny of the majority.

What part about equal protection under the law don't they get? Last time I checked that was enshrined in the capital C Constitution. The same one that trumps all these state constitutions.

[medkitz]

Why have just have a law banning sax sex marriage when you can have a law AND a constitutional amendment?

I'm pretty sure our Constitution was specifically designed to prevent shit like this, aka the tyranny of the majority.

What part about equal protection under the law don't they get? Last time I checked that was enshrined in the capital C Constitution. The same one that trumps all these state constitutions.

Wait they haven't gone all the way. Ban online marriages and couples too. DOWN WITH TF2 RINGS!

[Spyder]

Why have just have a law banning sax sex marriage when you can have a law AND a constitutional amendment?

I'm pretty sure our Constitution was specifically designed to prevent shit like this, aka the tyranny of the majority.

What part about equal protection under the law don't they get? Last time I checked that was enshrined in the capital C Constitution. The same one that trumps all these state constitutions.

Because the people approving of this are TRUE Americans, doing Gawd's work; a crusade against the Satanic, "commie" ideals of the Constitution, fighting against those damnable heretics who just wanna live their lives. Curseth them!

I find it ironic that many religious folk talk about how morally superior they are to everyone else. Just disregard how religious people are the most judgmental out of any other kind of person. And I don't think I need to address Priests/Ministers that molest young children...

(P.S. I am a Lutheran, which makes this post even more ironic.)

[Smeemo]

The bigots can't even handle their own drug.



My favorite one is when the rapist gets to buy his victim for 50 shekels of silver... to make it all okay. Wtfffffffffff

[Failhorse]

A bit off topic. This is all I know of NC. Back in the day I was a manager of store openings for a company. My hotel was right next to the place I was opening. Next to that a bar. Next to that a strip club that served breakfast.

True story. I never drove anywhere.

[GoDM1N]

Lets get finger to nuke NC. June 25th is a good day for me because ill be in CA that week

[duck]

DOWN WITH TF2 RINGS!

NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE MY RING!

On a side note, its stupid that people hate gay mariage,

Im to lazy to make a meme, but heres what it'd say
(picture of a sterotypical Tarheel)
Hates gay mariage
Doesn't effect him whatsoever

[Nikki Wolf]

Lets get finger to nuke NC. June 25th is a good day for me because ill be in CA that week

TAKE ME WITH YOU! D:

Im to lazy to make a meme

And that is why I made one XD (well, someone else did, but I recreated in PS, since nobody could see it)

[mrpikmin2]

props to Obama for directly saying that he supports gay marriage.

[Spyder]

props to Obama for directly saying that he supports gay marriage.

Obama, prior to today, was always pro-choice about gay marriage.

He's probably just coming out of the woodwork right now in order to get support for the upcoming election.

[stanley]

props to Obama for directly saying that he supports gay marriage.

Obama, prior to today, was always pro-choice about gay marriage.

He's probably just coming out of the woodwork right now in order to get support for the upcoming election.

he actually didnt support same-sex marriage before, he said he thought civil-unions were pretty much the same thing,and so there was no need for it. im pretty sure this is the first time hes officially said anything about him being for same-sex marriage.

[Spyder]

props to Obama for directly saying that he supports gay marriage.

Obama, prior to today, was always pro-choice about gay marriage.

He's probably just coming out of the woodwork right now in order to get support for the upcoming election.

he actually didnt support same-sex marriage before, he said he thought civil-unions were pretty much the same thing,and so there was no need for it. im pretty sure this is the first time hes officially said anything about him being for same-sex marriage.

He wasn't for it personally, but he thought they should have the "right" to marriage. Hence, pro-choice.

Granted, Obama hasn't been known for having a strong opinion on anything...

[Ninja]

[Smeemo]

More from /r/atheism. FSM bless its meme-makers.

[Smeemo]

Can't.... stop.....

[Spyder]

[GoDM1N]

[Phantom]

Shockingly amazing how this is turned from supporting gays to christian hate.
>.>
Actually its not its just typical.

[Ninja]

Well I mean its pretty much the Christians that are lobbying for anti-gay laws.
I've seen them first hand in Nc they can be horrible...

(Note:I am not saying all of them are terrible, but most of them are.)

[medkitz]

Send Nikki. he shall smite them all down with a sandvich.

[Ninja]

Nikki lives in NC already >.>

[Smeemo]

Shockingly amazing how this is turned from supporting gays to christian hate.
>.>
Actually its not its just typical.

What if the Amish somehow were the majority and amended your state's constitution to ban the playing of videogames because it is against their religion? Would it be wrong to mock the beliefs of the Amish just because they're of a religious nature? Tyranny of the majority is tyranny of the majority, and in a secular society, bigots and their efforts to use the force of the state to oppress a minority deserve to be shamed and ridiculed publicly, no matter what label they throw in front of their names. Numerous states deny equal rights to homosexual couples; NC is getting the brunt of it right now because its population just amended their constitution to enshrine the majority's hate in law.

H.L. Mencken put it nicely: "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." I don't think anyone here is making straw men of the NC Christian majority. Individuals should be judged on their own merits, but ideas must be free game to poke fun at and question, especially when those ideas are used to deny liberty to anyone. Our republic isn't a theocracy for very good reasons.

[Patrid]

Most of the hate built up towards Christianity is forged through constant contact/media coverage of "Christians" expressing extremist views or using religion as an excuse to be douche-y. Sadly, not all Christians are like this, it's just that the loudest most obnoxious ones get coverage, draw attention, and stay in the memories of everyone else.
Personally, if you don't agree with my beliefs, that's fine. Unlike the "right" and "wrong" nature of our educational system, religion should be interpretive.

[Wakka]

Sadly, not all Christians are like this,

i think you want to use a different word here!

[MamaWeegee]

Most of the hate built up towards Christianity is forged through constant contact/media coverage of "Christians" expressing extremist views or using religion as an excuse to be douche-y. Sadly, not all Christians are like this, it's just that the loudest most obnoxious ones get coverage, draw attention, and stay in the memories of everyone else.
Personally, if you don't agree with my beliefs, that's fine. Unlike the "right" and "wrong" nature of our educational system, religion should be interpretive.

Patrid it depends on what state you live in. Go to southern Missouri aka redneck bible land. Hell even 30 minutes out of the largest metropolitan area on the eastern side of the state (STL) you have bigoted racist homophobes galore. People are crazy as hell.

[stanley]

i understand there are plenty of crazy bible loving people in the world, but the majority aren't.its unfortunate that an entire group of people are being generalized by a few that are just really obnoxious idiots. there are plenty of Christians who support gay marriage.

what i dont get is why these anti-gay people think that making it legal is in their eyes going to change anything about the bible. if i truly believed gays were going to hell, making it legal wouldnt change my belief about that...and i also dont understand why so many people try to say that gay marriage is wrong because it says so in the bible, where does it say that in the constitution?

[MamaWeegee]

i understand there are plenty of crazy bible loving people in the world, but the majority aren't.its unfortunate that an entire group of people are being generalized by a few that are just really obnoxious idiots. there are plenty of Christians who support gay marriage.

what i dont get is why these anti-gay people think that making it legal is in their eyes going to change anything about the bible. if i truly believed gays were going to hell, making it legal wouldnt change my belief about that...and i also dont understand why so many people try to say that gay marriage is wrong because it says so in the bible, where does it say that in the constitution?

It's cause they think that the government is attacking their religion and in order to keep their views in the public eye they need to force them on everyone else. This is why there should be a strong separation of church and state. Government control religion as religion shouldn't control the government.

[stanley]

yah, but its not like making gay marriage legal is going to change the bible. in their eyes, the gays are all still going to hell, legal or not

[Spyder]

yah, but its not like making gay marriage legal is going to change the bible. in their eyes, the gays are all still going to hell, legal or not

Since the majority of the country is some denomination of Christian, they think that the United States is a Christian nation, which it most certainly is not.

[Smeemo]

Next time you run into a homophobe who bases their bigotry on the Bible, ask them what Jesus said about homosexuality.

I did read about a NC church whose membership was very vocal in their opposition to the amendment. I wish I could find the article and image, but the gist of their position was: Jesus said love all the people, which, as you may guess, includes whores, thieves, gluttons, and murderers, to name a few. That's a sentiment I can get on board with--not so much all the magic stuff that usually goes along with it, but "treat others like you want to be treated" is a great moral principle.

Basically the anti-homosexual Christian's argument is based on old Hebrew law. It includes all kinds of wacky bullshit "abominations" like planting two different crops side by side, cutting the sides of your hair, getting tattoos, eating shellfish, and the list goes on and on. Small-minded people will use any justification they can to support their small-mindedness, including horrifically outdated moral standards from a tribal culture that scraped their existence in the desert thousands of years ago with no concept of modern science. It's unfortunate people still think the old moral code is still valuable enough to lump in with the radical Jesus, but whaddya gonna do? Mock them on the interwebs, that's what.

The greater our understanding of science becomes, the more fundamentalists have to concede. Ex. Earth orbits the sun. Earth is not 6000 years old. The planet and its inhabitants did not spontaneously appear. We inhabit a fairly mundane section of space at the edge of a mundane galaxy among billions of others. And homosexual behavior is observed in numerous species. I'm proud that my generation (for the most part, it seems anyway) can draw the parallels between the gay civil rights movement and the black American civil rights movement. It'll take some time, but eventually all these hateful assholes will die and take their poisonous ideas with them. k I'm done ranting.

[Spyder]

Next time you run into a homophobe who bases their bigotry on the Bible, ask them what Jesus said about homosexuality.

I did read about a NC church whose membership was very vocal in their opposition to the amendment. I wish I could find the article and image, but the gist of their position was: Jesus said love all the people, which, as you may guess, includes whores, thieves, gluttons, and murderers, to name a few. That's a sentiment I can get on board with--not so much all the magic stuff that usually goes along with it, but "treat others like you want to be treated" is a great moral principle.

Basically the anti-homosexual Christian's argument is based on old Hebrew law. It includes all kinds of wacky bullshit "abominations" like planting two different crops side by side, cutting the sides of your hair, getting tattoos, eating shellfish, and the list goes on and on. Small-minded people will use any justification they can to support their small-mindedness, including horrifically outdated moral standards from a tribal culture that scraped their existence in the desert thousands of years ago with no concept of modern science. It's unfortunate people still think the old moral code is still valuable enough to lump in with the radical Jesus, but whaddya gonna do? Mock them on the interwebs, that's what.

The greater our understanding of science becomes, the more fundamentalists have to concede. Ex. Earth orbits the sun. Earth is not 6000 years old. The planet and its inhabitants did not spontaneously appear. We inhabit a fairly mundane section of space at the edge of a mundane galaxy among billions of others. And homosexual behavior is observed in numerous species. I'm proud that my generation (for the most part, it seems anyway) can draw the parallels between the gay civil rights movement and the black American civil rights movement. It'll take some time, but eventually all these hateful assholes will die and take their poisonous ideas with them. k I'm done ranting.

[stanley]

ive been force fed religion for some time now, and most people in my church are pretty level headed, ive only met a couple of people that seem to actually believe everything in the bible.it really pisses me off the way some people interpret the bible, its really not even meant to be taken literally imo. and its funny to see all these conservatives going around "spreading gods word" when jesus would undoubtedly be a liberal if he were around today.

[GoDM1N]

[MamaWeegee]

For the record I have nothing against people of faith. Just bigoted assholes that think their morals supersede people's rights.

[Smeemo]

[stanley]

doing it right

[Maringue]

doing it right

Who are these people and how can I donate money to them?

[medkitz]

Why must people harass Gay folks, it's not like they force a gay marriage upon others. jeez

[Necro Wes]

[Smeemo]

On homophobia: