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Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:50 pm

I kao was wondering about a unban request.

I was performing in a CSn spycrab on the trade server. But when a computer shuts down in the end of a spycrab it looks like you left because you didn't wanna lose. So when i got kicked my computer also went down for a few minutes. When i finally turned it on i was told by a admin i was scamming and going to get banned. But the second i turned my computer on i was told that so i had no time to find the guy and continue the situation. So for now in time i am permantly banned from all crit sandvich servers. I was performing to have a unban request added because for the past few months i have only played Crit sandvich servers and it is hard to find a server with people that are easy to get along with and have a good time. And also when i got banned i was banned on all servers. And the thing is when someone gets banned it should be the server that somthing happened in only. I am currently banned from all servers and is not aloud to play the slayboxes or the fun servers. And since i have seen it enforced so i have tryed to help on those servers to that trading is aloud to be in only the trading servers. So i think someone getting banned should be banned on those servers only not the trade servers to some it up in one sentence and finish that subject here. So i was wondering if i could get a request to get unbanned.

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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by JimBob » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:11 pm

What I understood from this sorta nonsense was "my computer crashed but it's only my word, can I be unbanned?"
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:20 pm

if you need me to edit it and make it shorter i am willing to do it, FOR THE NAME OF SCIENCE.xD
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Techercizer » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:21 pm

I think jimbob's summary does the situation justice, for the most part.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Patrid » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:21 pm

Hello Demo,

I've had this conversation with you yesterday.

Here's where our conversation went:
♔²| Patrid |CSn: hi
CSn| Unusual King Kao: yo
♔²| Patrid |CSn: I was just informed that you left during a spycrab?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ?
♔²| Patrid |CSn: You fortook in a game of spycrabbing for a craftable hat and left
CSn| Unusual King Kao: oh
♔²| Patrid |CSn: yea...
♔²| Patrid |CSn: I've just looked over the evidence, and it's clear as day
CSn| Unusual King Kao: yeah
♔²| Patrid |CSn: Do you have anything to say?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: says the gaben
♔²| Patrid |CSn: or write?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: not really
CSn| Unusual King Kao: just that
CSn| Unusual King Kao: i do it for teh lulz
♔²| Patrid |CSn: well, I'm sorry to say, but You will me hereby banned from CSn trade servers.
CSn| Unusual King Kao: wait what?
♔²| Patrid |CSn: We do not tolerate scammers
CSn| Unusual King Kao: all of them forever?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: can i just give him a craftable hat
CSn| Unusual King Kao: if i find him
♔²| Patrid |CSn: One who runs from a spycrab without paying is a scammer
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ♔²| Patrid |CSn: hi
CSn| Unusual King Kao: yo
♔²| Patrid |CSn: I was just informed that you left during a spycrab?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ?
♔²| Patrid |CSn: You fortook in a game of spycrabbing for a craftable hat and left
CSn| Unusual King Kao: oh
♔²| Patrid |CSn: yea...
♔²| Patrid |CSn: I've just looked over the evidence, and it's clear as day
CSn| Unusual King Kao: yeah
♔²| Patrid |CSn: Do you have anything to say?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: says the gaben
♔²| Patrid |CSn: or write?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: not really
CSn| Unusual King Kao: just that
CSn| Unusual King Kao: i do it for teh lulz
♔²| Patrid |CSn: well, I'm sorry to say, but You will me hereby banned from CSn trade servers.
CSn| Unusual King Kao: wait what?
♔²| Patrid |CSn: We do not tolerate scammers
CSn| Unusual King Kao: all of them forever?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: can i just give him a craftable hat
CSn| Unusual King Kao: if i find him
♔²| Patrid |CSn: One who runs from a spycrab without paying is a scammer
CSn| Unusual King Kao: i dont even know who it was
CSn| Unusual King Kao: scorching somthing
♔²| Patrid |CSn: I'm sorry, but spycrab runaways are considered scammers and we cannot do anything to bend the rules
CSn| Unusual King Kao: so how long is the ban
♔²| Patrid |CSn: permanent
♔²| Patrid |CSn: Trade servers cannot tolerate scamming
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ive never heard of that rule
CSn| Unusual King Kao: and cant i just give him the craftable hat
CSn| Unusual King Kao: and ive been scammed on CSn trade servers and nothing happened
♔²| Patrid |CSn: You agree to terms of spycrabbing...and when you lose you are expected to pay
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ok
CSn| Unusual King Kao: whats the guys name
♔²| Patrid |CSn: well you should've taken screenshots
♔²| Patrid |CSn: And sent in evidence of your scam... in which case, you would've gotten the scammer banned
♔²| Patrid |CSn: however in this case, I'm afraid your ban will not be overturned.
CSn| Unusual King Kao: dang
CSn| Unusual King Kao: scorching somthing
♔²| Patrid |CSn: I'm sorry, but spycrab runaways are considered scammers and we cannot do anything to bend the rules
CSn| Unusual King Kao: so how long is the ban
♔²| Patrid |CSn: permanent
♔²| Patrid |CSn: Trade servers cannot tolerate scamming
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ive never heard of that rule
CSn| Unusual King Kao: and cant i just give him the craftable hat
CSn| Unusual King Kao: and ive been scammed on CSn trade servers and nothing happened
♔²| Patrid |CSn: You agree to terms of spycrabbing...and when you lose you are expected to pay
CSn| Unusual King Kao: ok
CSn| Unusual King Kao: whats the guys name
♔²| Patrid |CSn: well you should've taken screenshots
♔²| Patrid |CSn: And sent in evidence of your scam... in which case, you would've gotten the scammer banned
♔²| Patrid |CSn: however in this case, I'm afraid your ban will not be overturned.
CSn| Unusual King Kao: dang

The thing is: If you do not use a middleman, you always run the risk of being labeled a scammer when you lose and are disconnected, either through internet issues (I have these as well) or through some freak accident.
You seem like a nice kid; however, there is a fine line between being disconnected via accident and by that by scamming. Unfortunately, we can't risk having a reputation for taking it easy on potentially scammers (not saying that you are 100% a scammer).
As you have written in your conversation with me: "i don't even know who it was"
Had you have used an admin, you would've been secure (because both parties would have relinquished their items to the middleman). In this case, I can't assure that the other guy would've received the nv hat.

As for the other party, I have since given him one of my own nv hats. With the start of the new server, there is to be zero tolerance policy to such actions, we can't risk reputation over mistakes.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:22 pm

hey where is the rest of the chat there? there was a bit of more and you wouldn't respond to me.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:24 pm

And also i was multichatting with 3 people in the begining so i didn't pay attention as much.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:27 pm

And i just found that

♔²| Patrid |CSn: well, I'm sorry to say, but You will me hereby banned from CSn trade servers.

says trade servers not all of the Crit sandvich servers.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Patrid » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:30 pm

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Sorry if this is a bit small. But this is enough to draw a conclusion.
The other party wouldn't have been paid back.
Results speak.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:32 pm

And the other guy would have been payed i offered to pay him back.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Patrid » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:35 pm

How could you have payed him back when you didn't even know his name?
Lucky, one of the witnesses who contacted me had the guy on their friend list. It turns out he was in a different server at the time I traded him.
Either way, I want to instill as much rep in this community as possible.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:36 pm

And at the beginning i was just going with what was happening to let you know. I was trying to fully understand what was going down. And like i say i was in multichat so some stuff i thought i was talking to other people.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:37 pm

And i could have payed him back when you sent me his name but i wasnt on tf2 at that time so i could have if i had a chance and wasn't ban.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:40 pm

And also though there is not the bottom of the chat where i was asking you questions and you where not responding. For me further of all delete my chats every few minutes because i dont like to have a chat box open with a bunch of messages because i may get confused that someone is messaging me or where talking.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Patrid » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:44 pm

DemoPan wrote:And i could have payed him back when you sent me his name but i wasnt on tf2 at that time so i could have if i had a chance and wasn't ban.

What if I wasn't online during the night?? The guy would've been at a loss. It's not the amount someone loses, but the fact that they had lost out on something that rightly belonged to them. That's what leaves a sour taste in the guy's mouth
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:46 pm

If he lost and left i honestly wouldn't care. That just means hey he just won a spycrab. He was good enough to win. And i know this is not going to end out the way i would like this.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Mike808 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:17 pm

if your computer crashed it would have said "client timed out"
not name here has left server.

and you get banned from all the servers because you can alway trade in any server. if you ban a hacker you ban them from all, same goes for scammers.
just because they scammed in the trade box doesnt mean they wont go scam in the slay.

your stories and counter arguments are really bad, it would have been much better to just tell the truth and apologizes for what you did instead of inflating the situation.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Patrid » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:19 pm

Mike808 wrote:if your computer crashed it would have said "client timed out"
not name here has left server.

and you get banned from all the servers because you can alway trade in any server. if you ban a hacker you ban them from all, same goes for scammers.
just because they scammed in the trade box doesnt mean they wont go scam in the slay.


interesting point. I forgot it was either that or "No steam login found." Good work mike
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Mike808 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:20 pm

i edited my post while you responded pat ^ read above as well
When I got kicked from casual...
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Rehvii : why did u kick him?
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by mrProtagonist » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:37 am

We had the same case yesterday. Although he was in game when I checked back up on him. Basically you broke the rules by not using a middleman and now you're paying the price.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by JimBob » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:11 am

There seems to have been A LOT of spy crabs going on without a middleman lately. I was luckily enough to come on when one was going down, one agreed to use a middleman, and the other one ran off. I also have MrCakeMan watching on the server for the time's I go AFK in another server (not an idle server :P) to let me know if anyone is spycrabbing for items without the use of the middleman. When I have my admin color off (just for IRC chat to be able to record it) then people never seem to listen; but when I turn it on, they listen almost instantly. People shouldn't need to have an admin telling them what to do in order to do it, and should just listen.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Techercizer » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:07 pm

JimBob wrote:There seems to have been A LOT of spy crabs going on without a middleman lately. I was luckily enough to come on when one was going down, one agreed to use a middleman, and the other one ran off. I also have MrCakeMan watching on the server for the time's I go AFK in another server (not an idle server :P) to let me know if anyone is spycrabbing for items without the use of the middleman. When I have my admin color off (just for IRC chat to be able to record it) then people never seem to listen; but when I turn it on, they listen almost instantly. People shouldn't need to have an admin telling them what to do in order to do it, and should just listen.

I'd say you should consider just keeping it off and doing sting operations; every person we bust and ban is a future scam we avert, and admins aren't on 24/7.

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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by JimBob » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:21 pm

Techercizer wrote:
JimBob wrote:There seems to have been A LOT of spy crabs going on without a middleman lately. I was luckily enough to come on when one was going down, one agreed to use a middleman, and the other one ran off. I also have MrCakeMan watching on the server for the time's I go AFK in another server (not an idle server :P) to let me know if anyone is spycrabbing for items without the use of the middleman. When I have my admin color off (just for IRC chat to be able to record it) then people never seem to listen; but when I turn it on, they listen almost instantly. People shouldn't need to have an admin telling them what to do in order to do it, and should just listen.

I'd say you should consider just keeping it off and doing sting operations; every person we bust and ban is a future scam we avert, and admins aren't on 24/7.

Just my 2p.

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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Maringue » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:54 pm

♔²| Patrid |CSn: Do you have anything to say?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: says the gaben
♔²| Patrid |CSn: or write?
CSn| Unusual King Kao: not really
CSn| Unusual King Kao: just that
CSn| Unusual King Kao: i do it for teh lulz

Yeah, you basically told him that you skipped out on paying up after a spycrab loss "for teh lulz". That pretty much speaks for itself.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by DemoPan » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:27 pm

Im accepting the ban and i am not going to say anything else about the ban but you can if you still want to. And i just can't believe this was all over 1 hat and now there is a bans category apparently right after i start a huge talk of a unban request.
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Re: Unusual king kao unban request

by Mike808 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:16 pm

DemoPan wrote:Im accepting the ban and i am not going to say anything else about the ban but you can if you still want to. And i just can't believe this was all over 1 hat and now there is a bans category apparently right after i start a huge talk of a unban request.

Don't feel special. konfy thread was huge.
And it's not just "one hat" we won't ban over "one hat" it's that you broke a server rule.
You have become what you wrongfully called many people, a scammer.
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