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Spawn camping?

by Amplify » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:55 pm

Ok so tonight some dude wanted to votekick me cause I was spawn camping on goldrush. Then Patrid gave me an advertisement if I wouldn't stop I would get kicked. What the heck is wrong with spawn camping, I'm sorry but if I can get through your entire team without a medic at your spawn there might be a problem in your defence. So what are the rules on slaybox? No spawn camping? That would mean a spy shouldn't in any mean wait beside the enemy spawn and everyone should wait to fire in map to close of spawn room?

Tonight I played under my friend's name: Le Boutch.

Explain the problem to me. I r no undastood I french spreaker remaber?
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Re: Spawn camping?

by VoltySquirrel » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:58 pm

Spawn camping is annoying, yes, but it's legal. If one teams defense sucks so bad that you can camp them hard, it's their fault. Really, an autobalance usually fixes that. Plus, the game was sorta designed that way.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Amplify » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:58 pm

Thanks, you just confirmed I would do you. ♥
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Re: Spawn camping?

by VoltySquirrel » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:59 pm

iAmplify wrote:Thanks, you just confirmed I would do you. ♥

Thanks?
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Amplify » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:00 am

You're welcome.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Maringue » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:08 am

If you were a demoman, then that was the problem. Spawn camping is legal (although still a dick move FAILHORSE!) if you are a spy of heavy ect. In the case of the demo, a spawn camping demo can keep people from exiting spawn for a long time since if you are decent, you can kill people before they can get a shot off.

It's admins discretion, if it's upsetting the flow of the game, they will tell you to stop. If you don't stop, they will kick you for not listening to an admin.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Amplify » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:14 am

I'm sure you're perfectly aware that a demoman can detonate once and then he's screwed. So easy step to counter a demoman spamming:

1. One sacrificial lamb.
2. The rest get out.
3. ???
4. Demoman should be dead.

If not, damn what can I say, you're bad.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by VoltySquirrel » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:16 am

iAmplify wrote:I'm sure you're perfectly aware that a demoman can detonate once and then he's screwed. So easy step to counter a demoman spamming:

1. One sacrificial lamb.
2. The rest get out.
3. ???
4. Demoman should be dead.

If not, damn what can I say, you're bad.

That, or just get a dead ringer spy with the saharan spy set and you'll be good.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Maringue » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:19 am

Or just don't stick camp spawn. It tends to make people not want to play in our servers, so we frown on it very heavily.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Ackybur » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:54 am

Also most people don't work together to get through it. It's a pub. Usually if a demo is camping I get through it with the people I'm talking to in mumble
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Re: Spawn camping?

by NuclearWatermelon » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:55 am

Spawn camping: Okay.
Spawn camping after being told not to: Not okay.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Zclipse » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:04 am

I spawn camp somewhat, it usually doesn't last very long(due to team winning or death), so i don't see why it would be illegal.

yah it's a dick move but you gotta keep dem stats up ya know?

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Re: Spawn camping?

by Gho$T » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:26 am

It doesnt matter if you are good or not, it is a pub server and everyone just wants to have fun regardless of skill set. If you are disrupting the fun facter by spawn camping, use your judgement and determen that you are pretty much sucking the fun out of the game and are going to make people leave to find another server. That is what i see spawn camping doing to the servers.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Smeemo » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:41 am

Spawn camping only happens when there's a complete breakdown in teamwork.

Most of the admins are hesitant to punish for spawn-camping; typically, it's only one or two players wreaking havoc, and with 5 seconds of teamwork, such spawn-camping is easily foiled.

That said, don't be a douchebag. When there's a T3 sg and a medic-heavy combo guarding the spawn doors, call back the assault for the greater good.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Failhorse » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:52 am

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Re: Spawn camping?

by Smeemo » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:54 am

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Re: Spawn camping?

by Patrid » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:25 am

Normally, I don't have a problem w/ spawncamping mainly because i'm decent, Or so I think, as spy. The problem was that your team was rolling and most of ours was just spawning. I can totally understand why a demo would sc if their team needed that extra push, but the incident tonight was salt in a wound (for some). I'm glad we brought up this issue now. The sooner-the better
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Maringue » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:01 pm

I'm fine if you are spy spawn camping, scout spawn camping to kill telies or even if you are a heavy/medic (mostly because the heavy runs out of ammo fairly quickly). Just don't sticky camp spawn. Nothing makes people think "Fuck this, I'm going to another server" like getting sticky spawn camped.

Also, if there is a L3 sentry and a heavy/medic outside spawn, the teams probably need to be scrambled.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Vivi Hill » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:55 pm

Maringue wrote:Nothing makes people think "Fuck this, I'm going to another server" like getting sticky spawn camped.

Also, if there is a L3 sentry and a heavy/medic outside spawn, the teams probably need to be scrambled.

I agree with this. The only time I really get mad about spawn camping is with demos who can cover the entire spawn easily and keep anyone from getting through. Spies can't even help since a simple sticky trigger will kill them (sure, dead ringer works but by the time you're being creative with your loadout just to kill one person it's a little too late for the cart).
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Amplify » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:05 pm

So the rules should be : Don't spawn camp as a demoman.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Echoplex » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:22 am

Maringue wrote:Or just don't stick camp spawn. It tends to make people not want to play in our servers, so we frown on it very heavily.

Yup. I don't care about spawn camping, I do care about the people that do
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Argent » Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:33 am

iAmplify wrote:So the rules should be : Don't spawn camp as a demoman.
I think there's a current rule saying "Don't be a douche"

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Re: Spawn camping?

by Amplify » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:59 am

That rule is too vague. A douche doesn't know he's being a douche.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Mike808 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:11 pm

i think spawn camping is fine.
unless it becomes like Lotus Clan style spawn camping

when the spawn is camped so hard theres 5 level 3 sentries and almost everyone else is pyro or demo
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Ackybur » Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:38 pm

iAmplify wrote:That rule is too vague. A douche doesn't know he's being a douche.



I know often enough when I'm one :)
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Sussy » Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:35 pm

New Server Rule: Don't be a nub. Spawn Camping is nub. The end. :)
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Repoman » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:06 am

As a scout, I purposely on certain maps go to the spawn and destroy teles and kill random people. Usually it brings more joy and laughs than tears and fears.

Shout shout, let it all out. These are the things we can do without.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Failhorse » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:56 am

I despise spawn campers. They should be shot. :mrgreen:
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Maringue » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:41 pm

Failhorse wrote:I despise spawn campers. They should be shot. :mrgreen:

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Re: Spawn camping?

by NuclearWatermelon » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:04 pm


Stop Whining

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Re: Spawn camping?

by Nikki Wolf » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:04 am

One server I played on puts a message on the player's screen if he stickied the enemy spawn door. I think it can also ban, but I'm not sure. It probably does if the player doesn't detonate within a specific period of time, but I know they are banned if an admin jumps in and spots them.
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Re: Spawn camping?

by Maringue » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:46 am

I like the idea of a warning showing up on your screen if you put stickies too close to the opposing spawn door. But not an automated ban.
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