Useless things people often do in TF2

[Sirnak]

Title says it all. What do you thing people often uselessly do in TF2? As for me:

1) Shouting "Spy!" when you spot a Spy about to backstab a teammate. The guy I'm about to backstab almost never turn around soon enough and, ME, I know I'm spotted and by which class (thx to player name). Which tells me how to react or flee from a danger I might not even have seen.

2) Shooting bullets at Uber Heavies.

3) Medics that try to heal with the syringue gun (no kidding).

4) Fighting back against Patrid when you are Spy.

[Trauma Advocate]

Engineers that incessantly whack their dispensers while they have no metal. Use those little legs and go get some!

[Patrid]

Bames Jond actually does a decent job at hs'in me with the ambassador. Figures..

Also... Medic that obtain a full kritz yet refuse to use it until the person they're healing is at <50 health.

[Toaster]

Spies that stab my appropriately named razorback... I'm not complaining, I get a free kill but I suffer the inconvenience of running back to the supply cabinet.

I've also wanted to know... is it possible to facestab the razorback?

[Trauma Advocate]

Facestabs are recognized by the game as a backstab, so yes. You need the Razorfront to block facestabs.

[Sirnak]

Facestabs are recognized by the game as a backstab, so yes. You need the Razorfront to block facestabs.

Wrong. I did facestab a couple of Razorback Snipers. Sometimes, they do block the facestab, but not always. I personally experience a 75% facestab success rate against Razorback Snipers.

Also, if you are so much INSIDE the back of a Sniper while stabbing him (so he REALLY can't make a step backward), the backstab might connect even though there is a Razorback. I personally experience a 25% wtfbackstab success rate against Razorback Snipers.

At my opinion, the Razorback is the most bugging and untrustworthy TF2 item. Since the second position is Spy's knives always according to me, it might explain a thing or two. lol

[Termz]

people admiring eachothers unusuals

[Techercizer]

Facestabs are recognized by the game as a backstab, so yes. You need the Razorfront to block facestabs.

Wrong. I did facestab a couple of Razorback Snipers. Sometimes, they do block the facestab, but not always. I personally experience a 75% facestab success rate against Razorback Snipers.

Also, if you are so much INSIDE the back of a Sniper while stabbing him (so he REALLY can't make a step backward), the backstab might connect even though there is a Razorback. I personally experience a 25% wtfbackstab success rate against Razorback Snipers.

At my opinion, the Razorback is the most bugging and untrustworthy TF2 item. Since the second position is Spy's knives always according to me, it might explain a thing or two. lol

Replay or it didn't happen.

[Mike808]

retarded engies who still havent figured out its faster to go to the spot you want and build your nest, than it is to build in front of your spawn and carry it there.

[Termz]

retarded engies who still havent figured out its faster to go to the spot you want and build your nest, than it is to build in front of your spawn and carry it there.

You can teleport with your stuff picked up with your teleporter

[Teh96]

I expected someone to say something about healing players on achievement_idle servers. :V

[Konfy]

playing their 6v6 mainclass on publics

[stanley]

people that use the huntsman (because its complete bulllshit)

and same as patrid with medics holding in kritz until youre about to die, and have nothing reloaded

[Hatred]

all true except #4 ... i always own patrid when imma spy even when he is pyro ... derp take that patrid

[Trauma Advocate]

Spies that use the CnD.



:O

[VoltySquirrel]

Spies that use the CnD.



:O

Not really. It's a great watch if you are the "Wait and Kill" type of spy.

[Techercizer]

Spies that use the CnD.



:O

Not really. It's a great watch if you are the "Wait and Kill" type of spy.

I'm really getting good use out of it as an Ambassador spy. It's not meant to be "efficient", get a lot of kills, or let you top the scoreboard; it's there for when you need to try something different that the other watches can't handle.

[Sirnak]

Spies that use the CnD.



:O

It's with the CnD I dominated Zclipse the other day (see other topic).

Thank you. :O

Spies that use the CnD.



:O

Not really. It's a great watch if you are the "Wait and Kill" type of spy.

I'm really getting good use out of it as an Ambassador spy. It's not meant to be "efficient", get a lot of kills, or let you top the scoreboard; it's there for when you need to try something different that the other watches can't handle.

Well said! Now, we just need to teach you the difference between a gun and a watch.

[Teh96]

people that use the huntsman (because its complete bulllshit)

Agreed. Those things have the oddest hitboxes I've ever seen on a weapon.

[Trauma Advocate]

Lol, I use the CnD myself from time to time just to remind myself the virtues of patience when playing spy. But we've all seen the CnD spies that *crawl* and I've rarely seen a more useless team mate.

[Techercizer]

people that use the huntsman (because its complete bulllshit)

Agreed. Those things have the oddest hitboxes I've ever seen on a weapon.

Ever watched Bleach? Those arrows work like zanpakto: they're actually the size of skyscrapers, and the users make them seem smaller for their convenience.

[doppelganger]

Spies that stab my appropriately named razorback... I'm not complaining, I get a free kill but I suffer the inconvenience of running back to the supply cabinet.

I've also wanted to know... is it possible to facestab the razorback?

Yes, razorback blocks all "backstabs." Even your razorback has blocked facestabs I've landed on you, and jump stabs, and regular stabs. The worst is when you're in a melee combat with a sniper and they flail around like a retard and when you swipe they miss you and end up turning away....

[Mike808]

retarded engies who still havent figured out its faster to go to the spot you want and build your nest, than it is to build in front of your spawn and carry it there.

You can teleport with your stuff picked up with your teleporter

i still end up building faster. level 3 sentry and dispenser and maybe level 2 telly. when the other guy only has level 3 sentry and level 1 telly/dispenser

people that use the huntsman (because its complete bulllshit)

and same as patrid with medics holding in kritz until youre about to die, and have nothing reloaded

people who try to use huntsman at extremely long range
heavies who think they are snipers and spray people across the map
medics who think crossbow greater than all and only use the bow.

[doppelganger]

don't play as a team...

[Konfy]

don't play as a team...

what is a "team"? O.o

[GoDM1N]

picking up full ammo kits in front of engis after they've rocket or sticky jumped once.

[Sirnak]

Spies that stab my appropriately named razorback... I'm not complaining, I get a free kill but I suffer the inconvenience of running back to the supply cabinet.

I've also wanted to know... is it possible to facestab the razorback?

Yes, razorback blocks all "backstabs." Even your razorback has blocked facestabs I've landed on you, and jump stabs, and regular stabs. The worst is when you're in a melee combat with a sniper and they flail around like a retard and when you swipe they miss you and end up turning away....

Reading that Doppel, it feels like you never experienced the bugs I referred to earlier. Am I the only one that happened to actually witness and live Razorback bugs?! O.o

[Rustic Apple]

Spies that stab my appropriately named razorback... I'm not complaining, I get a free kill but I suffer the inconvenience of running back to the supply cabinet.

I've also wanted to know... is it possible to facestab the razorback?

Yes, razorback blocks all "backstabs." Even your razorback has blocked facestabs I've landed on you, and jump stabs, and regular stabs. The worst is when you're in a melee combat with a sniper and they flail around like a retard and when you swipe they miss you and end up turning away....

Reading that Doppel, it feels like you never experienced the bugs I referred to earlier. Am I the only one that happened to actually witness and live Razorback bugs?! O.o

I've seen snipers get backstabbed through their Razorbacks before. Maybe like... 3 times over my whole TF2 career. Maybe they've been backstabbed before, but the model got bugged and stayed on. I 'unno, tis weird shit.

[duck]

things i hate,
people stopping in the middle of battle to see that my tree is lit up
pyros who refuse to airblast people who are on fire
medics refusing to heal me because they are pocketing a heavy who has a third of the points i do
zclipse when hes on the other team
konfy when hes on the other team
failhorse when hes on my team

[Echoplex]

Trying to actually aim with scout instead of just strafing and clicking when the crosshair lines up with the enemy I assume this is a bad habit, but I have yet to be punished for it

[Guy]

MEDICS THAT DON'T HEAL MEDICS THAT ARE ABOUT TO DIE...
*breathes*
Medics that don't overheal other medics... and stick to a person no matter what.

I save and assist dying friendly medics, as well as, overheal them so that can survive that random crit.
I also uber kritzing medics, while switching between his/her target.
I Kritz ubered players.
I also support the team and hold lines and push forward... you know when I die.

No one ever does these things for me...

BROS (medics) before HOES (your damn pocket)*
*This is true 95% of the time.

[Techercizer]

MEDICS THAT DON'T HEAL MEDICS THAT ARE ABOUT TO DIE...
*breathes*
Medics that don't overheal other medics... and stick to a person no matter what.

I save and assist dying friendly medics, as well as, overheal them so that can survive that random crit.
I also uber kritzing medics, while switching between his/her target.
I Kritz ubered players.
I also support the team and hold lines and push forward... you know when I die.

No one ever does these things for me...

BROS (medics) before HOES (your damn pocket)*
*This is true 95% of the time.

BROS BEFORE HOES DOG.

*jumping medic chest-bump"

The reason I don't heal/put you out more often is probably because I tend to class switch when you go Medic; we're both really competent healers, and I feel like having two of us at once is kind of redundant.

Rest assured, when I see a friendly medic, I drop whatever I'm doing to heal them/check their health, barring extraordinary circumstances.

[Guy]

*Jumping medic chest bump*
Danke, Herr Doktor!

2 medics, working together... your team will steamroll the other.

[Techercizer]

Of course, now we've just told every Spy that checks the CS boards how to screw over our teams...

Worth it!

[Guy]

Only spies I go out of my way to heal and uber when they are enemy spies... are Fingerman* and Cash.
I haven't really been on the wraith side of GoDM1N when he a spy yet...

I don't know if Finger notices this. Also, I always make sure Cash is overhealed. LOL

*Save that one time he truely tricked me when I 1st started here. LOL

[Techercizer]

Only spies I go out of my way to heal and uber when they are enemy spies... are Fingerman* and Cash.

I don't know if Finger notices this. Also, I always make sure Cash is overhealed. LOL

*Save that one time he truely tricked me when I 1st started here. LOL

I'll heal enemy spies if they're cool and don't try to stab my patients and I. It's tough to tell in the heat of battle whether a spy is hostile though, and I generally wind up playing it safe.

[doppelganger]

Spies that stab my appropriately named razorback... I'm not complaining, I get a free kill but I suffer the inconvenience of running back to the supply cabinet.

I've also wanted to know... is it possible to facestab the razorback?

Yes, razorback blocks all "backstabs." Even your razorback has blocked facestabs I've landed on you, and jump stabs, and regular stabs. The worst is when you're in a melee combat with a sniper and they flail around like a retard and when you swipe they miss you and end up turning away....

Reading that Doppel, it feels like you never experienced the bugs I referred to earlier. Am I the only one that happened to actually witness and live Razorback bugs?! O.o

I've done it 1 time. Which to me is miniscule enough to say that it never happens.

[doppelganger]

Only spies I go out of my way to heal and uber when they are enemy spies... are Fingerman* and Cash.

I don't know if Finger notices this. Also, I always make sure Cash is overhealed. LOL

*Save that one time he truely tricked me when I 1st started here. LOL

I'll heal enemy spies if they're cool and don't try to stab my patients and I. It's tough to tell in the heat of battle whether a spy is hostile though, and I generally wind up playing it safe.

I will stab you... all of you... there is no mercy... Wrath, is that what Godm1n is called? Then I must be armageddon.

[Techercizer]

Only spies I go out of my way to heal and uber when they are enemy spies... are Fingerman* and Cash.

I don't know if Finger notices this. Also, I always make sure Cash is overhealed. LOL

*Save that one time he truely tricked me when I 1st started here. LOL

I'll heal enemy spies if they're cool and don't try to stab my patients and I. It's tough to tell in the heat of battle whether a spy is hostile though, and I generally wind up playing it safe.

I will stab you... all of you... there is no mercy... Wrath, is that what Godm1n is called? Then I must be armageddon.

If Godmin is Wrath, then I must be Tranquility, because the only time he seems to be a problem is when he one-shots me from some distant or unexpected location.

[Mike808]

picking up full ammo kits in front of engis after they've rocket or sticky jumped once.

DONT TAKE MY METAL!

[Hatred]

picking up full ammo kits in front of engis after they've rocket or sticky jumped once.

DONT TAKE MY METAL!

FUCK I HATE THAT!!! should be auto ban to pick up metal when there is a dispencer within 10 feet OR there is a engie within 20 feet .....

[Echoplex]

I ate the engi's metal on dustbowl 3 one time by accident and I exploded myself in console out of shame to give some of it back

[Guy]

I ate the engi's metal on dustbowl 3 one time by accident and I exploded myself in console out of shame to give some of it back

You sir, are a gentleman and kredit to team!

Now all we need now is, at least 1 person on those playload race maps... not standing on the cart so medics can get thier ubers in prep. LOL

[Trauma Advocate]

Ubercharge rate is always maximized during prep, unless there's a special case in payload race that I am unaware of.

[Techercizer]

I ate the engi's metal on dustbowl 3 one time by accident and I exploded myself in console out of shame to give some of it back

You sir, are a gentleman and kredit to team!

Now all we need now is, at least 1 person on those playload race maps... not standing on the cart so medics can get thier ubers in prep. LOL

Huh? If everyone stands on the cart, it makes it easy to overheal them all before the round begins. It's almost impossible to not get an uber ready in standard set-up time if you just keep healing someone; the only way it can really happen is if you suddenly realize you don't know where any of your team is.

On the flip side, I hate when people spread themselves out before a round, or damage themselves when there is less than 20s remaining. The first makes it hard for me to track down and buff everyone, and the second makes it take longer to heal them before-match and in-combat. I once had a Demo apologize when I explained this to him before a round, which was pretty nice since people generally don't seem to care how hard their medic's job is.

[VoltySquirrel]

Playing on a US TF2 server in Okinawa and expect to do good despite massive lag. :/

[Techercizer]

Sit in the spawn for 3/4 of pl_Goldrush 2 as a medic, refusing to leave the gate until someone switches spycrab so you can ubercharge them.

That was a fun match.

[Guy]

I ate the engi's metal on dustbowl 3 one time by accident and I exploded myself in console out of shame to give some of it back

You sir, are a gentleman and kredit to team!

Now all we need now is, at least 1 person on those playload race maps... not standing on the cart so medics can get thier ubers in prep. LOL

Huh? If everyone stands on the cart, it makes it easy to overheal them all before the round begins. It's almost impossible to not get an uber ready in standard set-up time if you just keep healing someone; the only way it can really happen is if you suddenly realize you don't know where any of your team is.

On the flip side, I hate when people spread themselves out before a round, or damage themselves when there is less than 20s remaining. The first makes it hard for me to track down and buff everyone, and the second makes it take longer to heal them before-match and in-combat. I once had a Demo apologize when I explained this to him before a round, which was pretty nice since people generally don't seem to care how hard their medic's job is.

A target getting healed by another medic, a friendly dispenser, a friendly payload cart, or any other recovery effect slows the rate you get uber.

The more healing on the target at per second, the less uber being built per second.

2 medics healing the same target during setup will less likely have a full uber, or JUST getting to uber as the round starts.
your target standing on a friendly payload cart at the beginning will reduce uber being built as well.
While maximized, you still suffer reduction in uber gain per healing source during setup.
Another thing people don't know is that damaging yourself in setup does NOT increase the medic's charge rate, as it is already maxed out.

[Techercizer]

You sir, are a gentleman and kredit to team!

Now all we need now is, at least 1 person on those playload race maps... not standing on the cart so medics can get thier ubers in prep. LOL

Huh? If everyone stands on the cart, it makes it easy to overheal them all before the round begins. It's almost impossible to not get an uber ready in standard set-up time if you just keep healing someone; the only way it can really happen is if you suddenly realize you don't know where any of your team is.

On the flip side, I hate when people spread themselves out before a round, or damage themselves when there is less than 20s remaining. The first makes it hard for me to track down and buff everyone, and the second makes it take longer to heal them before-match and in-combat. I once had a Demo apologize when I explained this to him before a round, which was pretty nice since people generally don't seem to care how hard their medic's job is.

A target getting healed by another medic, a friendly dispenser, a friendly payload cart, or any other recovery effect slows the rate you get uber.

The more healing on the target at per second, the less uber being built per second.

2 medics healing the same target during setup will less likely have a full uber, or JUST getting to uber as the round starts.
your target standing on a friendly payload cart at the beginning will reduce uber being built as well.
While maximized, you still suffer reduction in uber gain per healing source during setup.
Another thing people don't know is that damaging yourself in setup does NOT increase the medic's charge rate, as it is already maxed out.

Not during setup, Guy; the uber charge rate is always at absolute max (or 0 if you aren't healing) until the time remaining clock hits 00:00. No exceptions. Check it up on the wiki if you still have doubts.

[Guy]

Must of changed it. XD
When I started way back after the medic update, it was like that.
I only been back for about a month and a half. X3 sorreh.

[Techercizer]

Must of changed it. XD
When I started way back after the medic update, it was like that.
I only been back for about a month and a half. X3 sorreh.

It's fine. They buffed the charge rate a few years ago because some teams were able to get ubers before setup and less-coordinated ones weren't, so instead of being wrong, you just got a surprise update fixing your problems!

Sounds much more enjoyable when you put it that way.