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Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by cant speall » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:35 am

There are a number of problems with the contest, many of which I do not need to repeat. This is just a place for people to say "yeah, I dont want any more for a while".
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by VoltySquirrel » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:14 am

cant speall wrote:There are a number of problems with the contest, many of which I do not need to repeat. This is just a place for people to say "yeah, I dont want any more for a while".

Except for mine. Actually, I don't mind the contests, I'm just promoting my giveaway.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:20 am

people have brought this up many times before, the redmins will make a wise choice
When I got kicked from casual...
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:23 am

wait what ? i troll these forum all the time and dont know what your talking about ..... then again i usually only look in tf2 forum and latest feeds part .....

whats wrong with contest ? if you dont want to take part then dont care about points ....
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Echoplex » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:28 am

I recommended an art/comic contest for the website but everyone ignored it :(

But yes, we are aware that doing stat based contests on the server isn't a perfect way to get things done. We tried to do random distribution of the top 100 in stats to make it less Try-Hard oriented but I think that we underestimated just how many regulars that we have on the server nowadays
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:29 pm

Hatred wrote:wait what ? i troll these forum all the time and dont know what your talking about ..... then again i usually only look in tf2 forum and latest feeds part .....

whats wrong with contest ? if you dont want to take part then dont care about points ....

You haven't noticed all the try hards/team stackers, doushbags/8==== D heads, ragers, and people who only play here for the contest then leave?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Harri » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:31 pm

Big Bear wrote:I recommended an art/comic contest for the website but everyone ignored it :(

But yes, we are aware that doing stat based contests on the server isn't a perfect way to get things done. We tried to do random distribution of the top 100 in stats to make it less Try-Hard oriented but I think that we underestimated just how many regulars that we have on the server nowadays



MS paint contest! I support this idea!
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:49 pm

Harri wrote:
Big Bear wrote:I recommended an art/comic contest for the website but everyone ignored it :(

But yes, we are aware that doing stat based contests on the server isn't a perfect way to get things done. We tried to do random distribution of the top 100 in stats to make it less Try-Hard oriented but I think that we underestimated just how many regulars that we have on the server nowadays



MS paint contest! I support this idea!

Just give me first place now
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:51 pm

I don't have ms paint :(
When I got kicked from casual...
Broseph Stalin : why the fuck would you kick him
Rehvii : why did u kick him?
Rehvii : dumbasses
Rehvii : now we are going to get fucked
Broseph Stalin : he was literally the best engie I've seen in a valve server ever
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:55 pm

Mike808 wrote:I don't have ms paint :(


Doesn't matter. I got this. Someone make this a competition for may! I already have an idea
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Dèx » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:59 pm

I cant draw a picture:(
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Harri » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:00 pm

I can't host it, cus I'm an art master. Someone get on this! Acky, you have competition, though I must say I'm outmatched with your genius paintings.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by tehs4ndman » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:34 pm

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:23 pm

Big Bear wrote:I recommended an art/comic contest for the website but everyone ignored it :(

But yes, we are aware that doing stat based contests on the server isn't a perfect way to get things done. We tried to do random distribution of the top 100 in stats to make it less Try-Hard oriented but I think that we underestimated just how many regulars that we have on the server nowadays

Wait didn't we have a art contest last month for the sites Steam avatar?

Mike808 wrote:You haven't noticed all the try hards/team stackers, doushbags/8==== D heads, ragers, and people who only play here for the contest then leave?

Anyway, yea when finger asked me for ideas for this contest this is pretty much what I said would happen. You simply cant have a contest based on stats in a pub server and expect it to do anything for the community other than bringing in some stat whores for the month. We did come up with some other ideas however, one mainly seemed like a awesome idea. After doing the Rocket Tennis episode of Roflvich, we had the idea of a Critsandvich TF2 Olympics. With events like the rocket jump, the pillvelin, the air shot (with pills and rockets) rocket tennis, pyro curling, Proyro volleyball, spycrab dueling ect. Which is a idea I still like to see be done. As well as art contest, talent show as well as a few other ideas. What does the community think about ideas like these instead of the stat contests we've had over the last 2-3 months?

Finger is simply trying to do something for the community, and he wants to do contest for us with uber items, its just a matter of finding something thats productive for the community we all agree on.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Echoplex » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:54 pm

Making a sandvich logo thing doesn't give people a lot of freedom for creativity :I

I think that a TF2 or critsandvich related comic/art contest would be good because it focuses on bringing people to the website, AND it gives the website lots of awesome content. Some people are freakishly artistic, and there's plenty of room for things to be funny, epic, whatever

Anyway, the website is a much more stable foundation for the community in the long-term than the server. There was a similar similar contest for an MMORTS (Shattered Galaxy <3) fan forum (http://www.sg-city.com) and it pretty much made the website. The game has been dead for years and it still has activity to this day

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Grambottle » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:15 pm

Contest got me on your servers, I'll be there after April.

Good times.

P.S. Away until May 10, in case some are wondering how I can say that and not be on the servers.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:36 pm

just my 2 cents ...

i like the idea behind the contests. it show great dedication and giving on behalf of the comunity. im happy as long as i get to play with my fav ppl once inna while :)

i think a contest were things like pro jumps and stuff like that is to .. i dont know the word but stupid ... Z would win or some jump map pro would win ....

i think you guys should take as long as it takes even if tis 3-4 months to think of something everyone would have a fair chance at ... i know easier said than done ....

im not going anywere even if the contests stop forever i have too much fun killing patrid and failhorse and peeing on rapid lols
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by cant speall » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:56 pm

With the way the contest is currently held, here are some of my complaints:

*They way points are distributed I am punished for playing on crit sandvich. This is especially true when playing on off hours because new people join the server and because they are new they nibble up all my points. I understand that people have already complained about this, but I just want to illustrate how it makes me feel.

*The sheer competitiveness of the whole thing. I cant stand losing points. "then dont care about them" they say. If you're a naturally competitive person like myself, you probably find ignoring the points damn near impossible. Before the contest I had fun just playing, but now I'd rather lose and not die than win and have a negative k:d ratio.

*Drastically changes the average skill set of the server. So lets say I manage to ignore the point system for a moment. I'm still getting my ass kicked and hard. I know I'm not the best player, and I haven't been playing as well as I used to, but recently I've been nothing but angry when I play (probably more of a personal problem than anything else). The contest has added some cool people, some ok people, and some people who are way to fucking good for me to even stand a chance (it makes me sad).

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I do like the idea of contests which prompt creativity and the community. I wish I had an insightful idea, but alas I do not.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:21 am

Everyone is affected by new people coming on the server; that's when your skill is tested. Besides, don't you play medic? People aim for you no matter what. If you want easy points play engi and keep running through your teleporter while you wait for people to go after your gun.


You say you're competitive I thought that would make you more excited about this competition. I'm also competitive and I love this contest. Maybe it's because I do t care about hats, but I love hearing toaster rage in mumble.

People are playi g smarter now. I love that and a higher skill set is good! What fun is a game if you can beat everyone? Z lipse is in that position even now and lately he's been going script demo and piss gun sniper to try and make it more fun. Wouldn't you hate having to do that? I would! Although piss gun is really funny...
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by cant speall » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:50 am

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Everyone is affected by new people coming on the server;

This is true, but more new people come to the server during the off hours when I can play. This also means that there are much less regulars, and in turn there are much less opportunities to gain points and much more opportunities to lose points.

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Besides, don't you play medic? People aim for you no matter what. If you want easy points play engi and keep running through your teleporter while you wait for people to go after your gun.


I think you have me confused with someone else. I hardly ever play medic to be honest, and I can't really support a contest which forces me to be engie just to play on the server.


Admiral Ackybur wrote:You say you're competitive I thought that would make you more excited about this competition. I'm also competitive and I love this contest. Maybe it's because I do t care about hats, but I love hearing toaster rage in mumble.


I am competitive, but due to my schedule (work 25 hours a week, class 15 hours a week, and finals coming up) I cannot afford to put as much time into TF2 as I have in the past. Although I'm competitive, I would much rather have fun than worry about points.

Admiral Ackybur wrote:People are playi g smarter now. I love that and a higher skill set is good! What fun is a game if you can beat everyone? Z lipse is in that position even now and lately he's been going script demo and piss gun sniper to try and make it more fun. Wouldn't you hate having to do that? I would! Although piss gun is really funny...


Again, my schedule doesnt really allow me to get much out of this. Yes, playing better people makes you better, but why would I want to play a game when I never win? Frustration during this contest is getting too high, and I'd rather lose to zclipse and the other regulars 100 times before I get my ass kicked up and down by someone who doesnt even care about our server.

I dont mean to be aggressive in the reply, I just thought I would try to explain a little better.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:54 am

Well no I see what you mean. Maybe curb a competition towards players that don't have to Increase their tf2 hours. Get a competition going that's casual friendly
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:18 am

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Well no I see what you mean. Maybe curb a competition towards players that don't have to Increase their tf2 hours. Get a competition going that's casual friendly

Thats why we made it so it was top 100, and only 50 random people of that get prizes, so you could come in 1st and get nothing but it seems theres still a lot of team stacking ect like we had last time. That and we didn't think it would be that hard to come in the top 100. The trick is to make sure are normals get prizes or at least have a easy shot to do so, yet we attract more quality players to the community. Finger and I talked quite a bit about this, and he wanted something that worked by simply playing on the slayboxs, this is what we (and who ever else offered Ideas, I think a few others did as well) came up with.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:31 am

GoDM1N wrote:
Admiral Ackybur wrote:Well no I see what you mean. Maybe curb a competition towards players that don't have to Increase their tf2 hours. Get a competition going that's casual friendly

Thats why we made it so it was top 100, and only 50 random people of that get prizes, so you could come in 1st and get nothing but it seems theres still a lot of team stacking ect like we had last time. That and we didn't think it would be that hard to come in the top 100. The trick is to make sure are normals get prizes or at least have a easy shot to do so, yet we attract more quality players to the community. Finger and I talked quite a bit about this, and he wanted something that worked by simply playing on the slayboxs, this is what we (and who ever else offered Ideas, I think a few others did as well) came up with.


Idk what to say. Either wait goes someone is going to be mad. Just have to find what works for the majority
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Toaster » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:24 am

Admiral Ackybur wrote:I love hearing toaster rage in mumble.


If you can't hit a single person for the entirety of my uber I have all the right in the world to get upset!
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:32 am

Toaster wrote:
Admiral Ackybur wrote:I love hearing toaster rage in mumble.


If you can't hit a single person for the entirety of my uber I have all the right in the world to get upset!

wow at least acky guarantees one kill for me when i uber her
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by cant speall » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:32 am

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Idk what to say. Either wait goes someone is going to be mad. Just have to find what works for the majority


Which is why I ask to postpone contests for a while. Why does anyone have to lose or get mad? I was attracted to chritsandvich because of the people, the community. One HUGE factor was cutler and sussy doing their commentaries (which I would be happy to do myself if people thought it would be fun...I think it would be fun). My point is that we can attract plenty of really cool people to the server without the need to hold contests. If we still want to give stuff away that's awesome, I just wish I had a good suggestion on how to do so evenly.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:34 am

Toaster wrote:
Admiral Ackybur wrote:I love hearing toaster rage in mumble.


If you can't hit a single person for the entirety of my uber I have all the right in the world to get upset!


I did though! It registered. I saw the wittle numbahs...



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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by SpoonFox » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:47 pm

I suggested a fun map tournement for pinkbox contests with prizes handed to winners.

I can build a map dedicated to the 'TF2 Olympics' if needed, kekeke. :P
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mangachu » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:37 pm

the reason to why he does not like the contest is due to the amount of tryhards/hatnerds that join the server...
Personally i like the idea of the server, because if people know about the contest we will get a large mass of people on the server, increasing the population of our community
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:40 pm

Mangachu wrote:the reason to why he does not like the contest is due to the amount of tryhards/hatnerds that join the server...
Personally i like the idea of the server, because if people know about the contest we will get a large mass of people on the server, increasing the population of our community

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by cant speall » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:48 pm

GoDM1N wrote:Quality over quantity
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:52 pm

Mangachu wrote:the reason to why he does not like the contest is due to the amount of tryhards/hatnerds that join the server...
Personally i like the idea of the server, because if people know about the contest we will get a large mass of people on the server, increasing the population of our community

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mangachu » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:11 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
Mangachu wrote:the reason to why he does not like the contest is due to the amount of tryhards/hatnerds that join the server...
Personally i like the idea of the server, because if people know about the contest we will get a large mass of people on the server, increasing the population of our community

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by SpoonFox » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:11 pm

GoDM1N wrote:Quality over quantity


GoDM1N wrote:Quality over quantity


GoDM1N wrote:Quality


Anyways, that aside... Yeah... Slayboxes have more trolls than normal who are just plain jerks who want points. Seems like a MAJORITY don't even care if they win or lose the game either! Some just choose sniper (Thank you class limits).

The point system is easily exploitable without 24/7 monitoring as well.

EDIT: On that note, notice how one guy posted introduction saying "Hi, just here for the contest" in a snobby manner?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Yuu » Sun May 01, 2011 12:47 am

SpoonFox wrote:I suggested a fun map tournement for pinkbox contests with prizes handed to winners.

I can build a map dedicated to the 'TF2 Olympics' if needed, kekeke. :P



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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mangachu » Sun May 01, 2011 9:18 am

Yuu wrote:
SpoonFox wrote:I suggested a fun map tournement for pinkbox contests with prizes handed to winners.

I can build a map dedicated to the 'TF2 Olympics' if needed, kekeke. :P



Heavy Boxing, Pyro Tennis and Medic Golfing! :D

FYI: Medic Golfing is an obscure Tf2 sport where a pair of medics stand on their own payload carts, the Golfers are spies and backstab to see who can get their Ball(Medic) to fly the farthest

fps config, bodies don't go in the same direction/some have a chance to do the animation
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Sun May 01, 2011 10:40 am

i like the fact the redmins are trying to better the comunity in a way that is ment to be fun ... give it some time for them to work out the bugs ... they put alot of thought into these and shouldnt be treated like they have done something wrong ... yes its brought some try hards and hat nerds i wont argue that ... but its through repeated trial and error that we progress as ppl and a community ...

the way it was set up i think contest 1 ppl had more fun on but made everyone a try hard for the most part and rewarded the current members more than the new ppl ...

and contest 2 was more focused toward bringing in new ppl to play with and made it so that those new ppl who came late would feel like they had a shot and the regs still had a fair shot based on there commitment to the server instead of stacking and play time ...

now i think with that info and some serious thought a new contest could find a middle ground and possibly more as long as the community is open to it :)

i thought that you guys would show more support for the ppl who work hard to better our community ... im not saying your complaints arnt valid they are ... but we have some great ppl trying to to great things you should thank them ... if u havent noticed most tf2 communities have there top-admins ignore they ppl and do what they want be happy they are involed and give them a chance ... all good things take time and effort

1 idea could be to set up a contest box ... so there is still the contest but ppl have to go there yes it would take ppl from our current servers to be there but at the same time if u dont like it you dont have to feel like your forced to compeat and can go to the SB's to relax .... also it could have specific rules and such to help get to the best way of running the contest ... or make the funbox, contest box for a month or something like that ... and if server attendance gets hurt from it, it doesnt have to be done like that again .... at the same time 1 might not be enough to run a contest on lol if to many ppl want to play .. so the funbox could go regular CSn and the SB's could be the contest server ...
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Toaster » Sun May 01, 2011 10:44 am

"postpone any future contest indefinitely"

Probably a good idea, don't think I've seen this much whining in the SB's... ever.

Sadly it's all over some stupid hats, 97 of the 100 qualifiers (along with those who didn't qualify) are just going to be disappointed at the end of it all anyways. For those that do win something special, well as we can see from the last give away, they don't stick around.

Other than the extra google add traffic I really don't see the point of any of this. I would much rather play with CSn members than have to put up with the degenerates grinding hat points every time this contest arrives.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by rem - anarchy » Sun May 01, 2011 1:21 pm

Try hards, team stackers, and douches in general will exist whether this contest does or not. Getting rid of the contest won't get rid of them.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Trauma Advocate » Sun May 01, 2011 1:42 pm

To be honest, I didn't even know about the contest until halfway through April. At that point I thought, hey that's kinda neat. Too bad I'll never win anything. Then a few days later I realized I was ranked 90 on Slaybox I.

Instantly I began to stress.


Having just got here, I don't really have much insight to this whole thing, but if there are others feeling like I do, maybe future contests should be put on hold for a bit. I wouldn't say never bring em back, and if they do continue, I'll continue to enjoy them. So basically, I'll live either way.

PS. Also, I'm not 100% sure I was looking in the right place for rankings.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Sun May 01, 2011 2:25 pm

rem - anarchy wrote:Try hards, team stackers, and douches in general will exist whether this contest does or not. Getting rid of the contest won't get rid of them.



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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Toaster » Sun May 01, 2011 2:56 pm

rem - anarchy wrote:Try hards, team stackers, and douches in general will exist whether this contest does or not. Getting rid of the contest won't get rid of them.


There'll be less of them at the expense of what, pixelated hats... lol

I'd rather have a decent community of people that don't bitch and moan every time they die.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Twinweapons » Sun May 01, 2011 3:08 pm

I also want an end to the contests since it does bring in people, but its people I quite frankly dislike and are completely immature children. If I was an admin I would have given them a warning and then proceed to kick them from the server. They do not contribute to the server except to populate it and when the contest is over they will never even look at the server again. I however do recommend tournaments with team vs. team play and have those teams sign up along with whom is on the team and such on the forms. These contests just bring players that encourage the previous regulars to leave the community. I greatly enjoyed this community when I first started playing here and there were commentators and such and I thought this was by far the best server I had been on, but since the contests have gone on the quality of player on the server has diminished and I now often see myself looking at other servers. Let's bring this server back to its former glory and have fun again =). Thank you. Also Toaster Idra is awesome, but he plays zerg and rages like no other person I have seen on Electronic Sports XD
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Sun May 01, 2011 4:16 pm

rem - anarchy wrote:Try hards, team stackers, and douches in general will exist whether this contest does or not. Getting rid of the contest won't get rid of them.

Yes, but not having contest like these will stop more attracting of them
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by rem - anarchy » Sun May 01, 2011 4:45 pm

Toaster wrote:
rem - anarchy wrote:Try hards, team stackers, and douches in general will exist whether this contest does or not. Getting rid of the contest won't get rid of them.


There'll be less of them at the expense of what, pixelated hats... lol

I'd rather have a decent community of people that don't bitch and moan every time they die.


It will be at the expense of populating the servers more, especially true at odd hours. While there may be less of these "undesirables" in the servers, it also may potentially cause the loss of good quality players that we want to bring in to our community. There are ways to deal with the undesirables.

Team stacking isn't unique to the contest. It happens with quite a few regulars regardless. This can easily be fixed by disabling team switching. It may not stop everyone because people have other means, but it becomes a lot harder.

For douches just mute them. If they keep harassing you talk to an admin or if possible switch to the other slaybox.

Try hards I don't really have a problem with. If you aren't trying hard then you shouldn't care if other people are. I play to have fun . Lately I have been playing a lot of classes I normally never do. I don't always do well but I just shrug it off.

There are ways to deal with these kind of people without stopping the contest that is meant to reward our regulars.


edit: oh and about people moaning about when they die. it's normally when new people are playing and dying to them deducts 25 points. there should be some way to prevent new people from deducting that much.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by dragoneill » Sun May 01, 2011 5:21 pm

My feet didn't stand a chance.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Sun May 01, 2011 5:36 pm

i agree anarchy there are many ways to fix these problems if ppl are open to it ... i dont even participate in them other than playing .... but that doesnt mean i dont agree with them .... thats why i said maybe 1 server for contests or 1 server not for them so the reg's have the choise of what they want ....

if nessisary ill email fingerman of failhorse the cost of a server for 1 month just to help it along ...
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by jawsh » Sun May 01, 2011 5:37 pm

dragoneill wrote:My feet didn't stand a chance.
His feet stood no chance.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Sun May 01, 2011 5:42 pm

jawsh your not helping yourself
When I got kicked from casual...
Broseph Stalin : why the fuck would you kick him
Rehvii : why did u kick him?
Rehvii : dumbasses
Rehvii : now we are going to get fucked
Broseph Stalin : he was literally the best engie I've seen in a valve server ever
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by rancoR » Sun May 01, 2011 5:58 pm

There's really no insult quite like telling somebody they try hard. The contest wasn't that hard to qualify for, I made it into the top100 with a ~3 week tf2 break for the portal 2 release/finals. It's a contest, not everyone can win, c'est la vie QQers. As a CSn regular, the contest did manage to get me playing in the slayboxes as opposed to others on my favourites list, thanks for the generosity fingerman.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Sun May 01, 2011 6:02 pm

rancoR wrote:There's really no insult quite like telling somebody they try hard. The contest wasn't that hard to qualify for, I made it into the top100 with a ~3 week tf2 break for the portal 2 release/finals. It's a contest, not everyone can win, c'est la vie QQers. As a CSn regular, the contest did manage to get me playing in the slayboxes as opposed to others on my favourites list, thanks for the generosity fingerman.

i dont see a problem with try hards. but we have had problems with teamstacking before. last contest my clan Hard Ass team stacked and we learned our lesson. this time its a different group and they also troll.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by stanley » Sun May 01, 2011 6:29 pm

i really dont feel like this is that big of a deal, its not that hard to ignore if you dont like it, yes, i realize some people teamstack but i havent seen a huge increase in it being done since the contest started, and i realize the contest has brought some trolls/douches, but its definitely brought a lot of new good people to the community as well.the only thing i see wrong with the contest is that its favored towards people that play a lot/people that are really good, all that has to be done is the next contest format just has to be something random, theres no reason to stop having contests
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by jawsh » Sun May 01, 2011 7:51 pm

Mike808 wrote:Jawsh, you're not helping yourself.

Am I being called a tryhard douchebag here?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Sun May 01, 2011 8:03 pm

jawsh wrote:
Mike808 wrote:Jawsh, you're not helping yourself.

Am I being called a tryhard douchebag here?

only problem is sharkbait to be honest.

and the contest was for good reasons and finger worked hard to make it fair.
if you win anything be grateful and accept.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by jawsh » Sun May 01, 2011 8:16 pm

Ah okay, Sharkbait is an acquaintance of mine.
I just like playing with my friends, sorry if that leads to us being on the same team.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Sun May 01, 2011 8:22 pm

jawsh wrote:Ah okay, Sharkbait is an acquaintance of mine.
I just like playing with my friends, sorry if that leads to us being on the same team.

its a all talk server......


Wow has Hard ass been replaced with a new batch of retards?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Sun May 01, 2011 8:23 pm

jawsh wrote:Ah okay, Sharkbait is an acquaintance of mine.
I just like playing with my friends, sorry if that leads to us being on the same team.



i realize sometimes ppl want to play with there friends ... but thats exactly the same excuse every team stacker tries to use .... "i just wanna play with my friends" ... then it goes from 2 ppl doing it to 4 then 6 and the server ends up like lotus or ffn or source servers ... all talk is on you dont have to be on the same team to play with them .... its more like i wanna always roll the other team so here is my excuse ...

so with all-talk on what i wanna know is how you cant play with your friends when you guys arnt on the same team ?

and hardass stopped .... but it seems like they have been got about 40 screenshots of ppl stacking .... ill join with reserved slot to get on then repeatedly leave while my friends are in que to get them in .... and then 6 of us are on same team .... derp but its not stacking when we go to spec to choose the same team

and yes godmin theres "new" ones now
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by jawsh » Sun May 01, 2011 9:02 pm

GoDM1N wrote:It's an all talk server.

Yeah, but that still puts me against my friends not with them.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Sun May 01, 2011 10:02 pm

jawsh wrote:
GoDM1N wrote:It's an all talk server.

Yeah, but that still puts me against my friends not with them.



I find this whole thread retarded. I happen to enjoy Jawsh and friends. It's nice to have more competition around here.


I think instead of a west coast server we need to open up a "beginners square" that seems like it would give us more variety in this sandvich. Plus, less "try hards"?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hotpocket » Sun May 01, 2011 10:40 pm

If i may be so bold as to say something, when i first started playing on this server it was because a friend of mine recommended it saying that it was a server with nice fun-loving players, class limits (thank you God pc servers actually have them), an ample supply of people willing to play medic and most importantly a large amount of competitive players who want to win. That was enough to make me instantly fall in love with your servers and keep coming back to play. When i found out that you were also holding a competition for prizes and that was what the points were for it only increased my want to play here. In fact i told a lot of people on my friends list that the servers had class limits and such they too were over joyed to try it out. many started showing up near the end of the contest and only found out about it now, and had the intention of coming back regardless because of the great community. When i asked them if they would've liked to participate many said yes and that it sounded like an incredible way to attract people of all skill ranges. So anyway the point im trying to make is this, Regardless of wether or not you host another give-a-way people will still be attracted and that if you keep them around it only drives people to push themselves to do better.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Benjones » Mon May 02, 2011 12:20 am

I think the contest served its purpose, which I assume was to bring fresh faces to CSn. It got me to start coming to crit sandvich as well as my friend Jeh. I think both of us will continue to come to this server too. Great ping and other than Sandman, good people.

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Qbert » Mon May 02, 2011 1:43 am

Benjones wrote:I think the contest served its purpose, which I assume was to bring fresh faces to CSn. It got me to start coming to crit sandvich as well as my friend Jeh. I think both of us will continue to come to this server too. Great ping and other than Sandman, good people.

Also, this is too much fun to leave behind.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Mike808 » Mon May 02, 2011 1:50 am


sorry sir, but dont you know rape is illegal in america?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by tehs4ndman » Mon May 02, 2011 1:52 am

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Mon May 02, 2011 4:58 am

i think it more or less the try hards that rage if they lose that is there problem they speak of ... the onl prob i have is stacking ... if a team just so happens to roll the other by chance thats fine ...

that and ppl would bitch about fingermans generousity ...

and welcome guys post a introduction in the forum ....

PS. sandman has come a long way in the passing months givee him a chance ... and sandman .... quit bugging the new ppl ... ROFL derp
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Mon May 02, 2011 8:32 am

jawsh wrote:
GoDM1N wrote:It's an all talk server.

Yeah, but that still puts me against my friends not with them.

Lies, its a all talk server, you can enjoy pwning their face and hearing them rage at you. This isn't the 1st time some clan or group as come here and said the same shit. If you want to always play on the same team as your clan grow a pair and join a comp league. While on CSn just stay on w/e the auto join puts you on.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by rem - anarchy » Mon May 02, 2011 2:18 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
jawsh wrote:
GoDM1N wrote:It's an all talk server.

Yeah, but that still puts me against my friends not with them.

Lies, its a all talk server, you can enjoy pwning their face and hearing them rage at you. This isn't the 1st time some clan or group as come here and said the same shit. If you want to always play on the same team as your clan grow a pair and join a comp league. While on CSn just stay on w/e the auto join puts you on.

For real, it's like we're the only community who likes to kill their friends. If you play in the slayboxes long enough, you'll make enough friends that you'll always play with some and against some. We have a lot of friends in the community, if we all stacked it just wouldn't be fair.

Man up, duel your friends, and then humiliate them. It's what a real friend would do.

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by cant speall » Mon May 02, 2011 3:04 pm



THIS does not bring people to our server. This scares people away. I'm glad you had fun kicking ass and spawn camping, but how does that contribute to the community?

The only solution that I've come up with is to limit the contests to one Slaybox. This would do at least two things

1. give me a place to go when I dont feel like getting dominated.
A. increase the amount of donators because people will want a reserved slot on the server.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Mon May 02, 2011 3:36 pm

cant speall wrote:


THIS does not bring people to our server. This scares people away. I'm glad you had fun kicking ass and spawn camping, but how does that contribute to the community?

The only solution that I've come up with is to limit the contests to one Slaybox. This would do at least two things

1. give me a place to go when I dont feel like getting dominated.
A. increase the amount of donators because people will want a reserved slot on the server.


Or make it so only donors can enter the contest :3
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Ackybur » Mon May 02, 2011 7:43 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
Or make it so only donors can enter the contest :3


I think this is a fantastic idea actually. Make it something like 2$, that way you're still getting money but it's not taking up EVERY reserved slot.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Qbert » Mon May 02, 2011 8:16 pm

cant speall wrote:


THIS does not bring people to our server. This scares people away. I'm glad you had fun kicking ass and spawn camping, but how does that contribute to the community?

The only solution that I've come up with is to limit the contests to one Slaybox. This would do at least two things

1. give me a place to go when I dont feel like getting dominated.
A. increase the amount of donators because people will want a reserved slot on the server.

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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Mon May 02, 2011 8:31 pm

Qbert wrote:Critsandvich: Good players need not apply.

Yet we have no problem with Zclipse or Toaster :roll:
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Mon May 02, 2011 8:35 pm

i think the whole idea of having to pay kinda defeats the perpose of attracting new ppl
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Qbert » Mon May 02, 2011 8:37 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
Qbert wrote:Critsandvich: Good players need not apply.

Yet we have no problem with Zclipse or Toaster :roll:

I do. Good players stress me out too much. You should make donations compulsory above a certain skill level, it's the only way I'll be able to play here without damaging my self-esteem.
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by GoDM1N » Mon May 02, 2011 8:46 pm

Hatred wrote:i think the whole idea of having to pay kinda defeats the perpose of attracting new ppl

Agreed, was just a idea off the top of my head. Personally I'd rather see the art contest ect instead, or simply not have contest on the SB servers. Maybe like the March contest only actually get people to show up. Maybe a 2v2 instead of 6v6?
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Re: Petition to postpone any future contest indefinitely

by Hatred » Mon May 02, 2011 10:32 pm

Hatred wrote:1 idea could be to set up a contest box ... so there is still the contest but ppl have to go there yes it would take ppl from our current servers to be there but at the same time if u dont like it you dont have to feel like your forced to compeat and can go to the SB's to relax .... also it could have specific rules and such to help get to the best way of running the contest ... or make the funbox, contest box for a month or something like that ... and if server attendance gets hurt from it, it doesnt have to be done like that again .... at the same time 1 might not be enough to run a contest on lol if to many ppl want to play .. so the funbox could go regular CSn and the SB's could be the contest server ...



ill even email fingerman the money for the new server for a month .... if they want to just set 1 up for a month .... and art is good too but leaves out thoughs who suck at it ... but its not a bad idea
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