Is anyone against shotgun spread?

[cant speall]

So I guess I'd just like to see some consistency in the shotgun spread, like I've experienced on other servers. I cant really think of a reason against implementing it, but there's got to be something, right?

I'm just looking to see what the counter argument to shotgun spread is, and to bring the topic to the front of discussion.

[Argent]

Random spread is more realistic, is the only argument I can really think about. It is theoretically possible to snipe someone from across the map with a shotgun/scatter gun and have all 10 shell fragments hit the target from so far away, which adds some interesting randomness to the game. That will never ever ever happen when random spread is turned on. I think no random spread helps less experienced players more, because whereas their shots will always be kind of random from lack of skill, they can hope more experienced players will just roll the dice poorly on their spread, and all the shell fragments veer off to the left of their crosshair. It's not totally fair per se, and it is frustrating in practice, but I think it's an okay implement for such casual servers as the CSn slayboxes.

[Patrid]

Like that time I 2-shotted you w/ the pyro shotty when you were full health scout at around close-mid range?

[cant speall]

You know me, always complaining. But I mean, I'd really like to see the

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spread for the shotty

[Toaster]

It is theoretically possible to snipe someone from across the map with a shotgun/scatter gun and have all 10 shell fragments hit the target from so far away,

Rockets also track down enemy's when random spread is turned off.

[cant speall]

I mean, I'd like to see it, and im not sure theres too much of an argument

[Toaster]

I mean, I'd like to see it, and im not sure theres too much of an argument

Yeah there really is little difference, only less trivialized scout battles is what it comes down to. I would like it since symmetry is always a good idea... and I enjoy playing scout when theres not too much spam.

[IncredulousDylan]

Personally, I would rather leave it as is. However small, Valve kept things such as this and criticals in mind while designing the game and I don't see any reason to change it. The two critsandvich servers I play on don't seem competitive at all and there's no reason to worry about nocrits, nospread, etc. on them.

[Argent]

Well, we did have nocrits/nospread on arenabox (may it rest in pieces), but that was 'cause death was a big deal in arena....

JUST SAYIN'

[critspam]

well it does mean experienced players suffer a lot more because they can get dominated by noobs when they get unlucky. and that is why i prefer meleeing EVERYTHING! apart from the crit rates.

[SirFoxey]

well, i prefer spread as opposed to no spread on servers. keeping the spread at 9x9x9 at all ranges makes it an unfair advantage to have a shotgun with no spread and is also very unrealistic.

[critspam]

unrealistic? thats just what i need to be able to play TF2! (check the TF2... REALISTIC?!? topic for why)

[Amplify]

no spread on Slaybox 2 pweassssssse.

[Toaster]

no spread on Slaybox 2 pweassssssse.

I suggested this when random crits were tuned off on SB2, the great creators haven't answered our prayers yet.

[NBC011795]

I like the shotgun spread, But I wish they would come out with something like a rifle for the Engineer.

[bjordan]

I wish they would make anything new for the engineer. Actually, since the detonator lets pyro play demo, I want a sentry with a slower firing rate (or less damage given) but catches spies on fire. It would be my counter to new pyros who let dr spies roam free.

[Sirnak]

I like the shotgun spread, But I wish they would come out with something like a rifle for the Engineer.

Please stop bumping topics.

I wish they would make anything new for the engineer. Actually, since the detonator lets pyro play demo, I want a sentry with a slower firing rate (or less damage given) but catches spies on fire. It would be my counter to new pyros who let dr spies roam free.

I still think Valve should have used Portal 2's lauch to give a Portal sentry to the Engineer. The funny vocals of these sentries would have been a nice addition to the already funny lines you can hear here and there in TF2. The stats? Pretty much the same damage as a normal lvl1 sentry gun, but with the advantage that the sentry's sensor laser (you remember how Portal sentries roam their sensor laser from left to right?) would notice Spies that it touches (visible or invisible) and keeps firing them until they die... Why did Valve only created a stupid TF2 misc item for Portal 2? Why? -.-

Portal sentries could even have had punch lines like "Good night." when they would have killed somebody. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

[Hatred]

the best argument is that ppl only bitch about random crits and no-spread is cause they are try hards that blame there death on randomness instead of there own flaws ... why play a game that you can always predict everything its pointless and boring that OH shit u got me or OH shit i got u is half the fun ...

if you dont like these things about the game play CSS .... oh wait most of u play TF2 cause the less randomness of CSS (why i play) and then act good at a game designed to be easy from start playing the easiest class and bich cause it was made to be this way (yes i know im terrible) ... AM I RIGHT ?

end point if you guys dont lie the game for what it is don play it there is many other games just like these alteraion servers but not made to be easy ...

DERP ;P

[Sirnak]

the best argument is that ppl only bitch about random crits and no-spread is cause they are try hards that blame there death on randomness instead of there own flaws ... why play a game that you can always predict everything its pointless and boring that OH shit u got me or OH shit i got u is half the fun ...

if you dont like these things about the game play CSS .... oh wait most of u play TF2 cause the less randomness of CSS (why i play) and then act good at a game designed to be easy from start playing the easiest class and bich cause it was made to be this way (yes i know im terrible) ... AM I RIGHT ?

end point if you guys dont lie the game for what it is don play it there is many other games just like these alteraion servers but not made to be easy ...

DERP ;P

B-b-b-but...!!!

I never said anything against anything you said... o.o

[Guy]

No spread... I play medic...

GTFO. I already have to dodge like hell to keep from being 1 shotted, now have a perfect shot w/shotgun spam? FFS. LTP.