Stats have been reset

[Vivi Hill]

Unfortunately for all the folks who like to track their points, the stat system has been completely reset. As in completely wiped of all data. This was necessary because our stat system has been gunking up with bugs and huge tables (no joke, there was more than one table that had >200MBs of data). If you noticed, the stat system was missing new weapons, and messed up when announcing connecting players, saying "Player Benny has joined (Pos with 9001 points)". These glitches were also slowing down our webserver.

Anyway, for those who were always at the bottom, now is your chance! Go get 'em!

[Guy]

Well I will take the chance to have more assists and less deaths on my record. XD

[Trauma Advocate]

*continues playing suicide soldier*

[bjordan]

Please stop giving engineers points for building. It results in people giving engies grief

[duck]

Please stop giving engineers points for building. It results in people giving engies grief

[Vivi Hill]

Sorry, what's the problem? If they disassemble their buildings the points are removed. I'm fine with getting rid of the points but I'd like to know why.

edit: oh, do they get points for moving them repeatedly? They shouldn't, but I guess it's a bug.

[tehs4ndman]

the stats are fixed now! u lose half the points instead of all of em wen u die! u also get points for airshotting! cool

[duck]

Sorry, what's the problem? If they disassemble their buildings the points are removed. I'm fine with getting rid of the points but I'd like to know why.

edit: oh, do they get points for moving them repeatedly? They shouldn't, but I guess it's a bug.

you get points for making it. if you move it you don't get more

[SovietPanda]

Sorry, what's the problem? If they disassemble their buildings the points are removed. I'm fine with getting rid of the points but I'd like to know why.

edit: oh, do they get points for moving them repeatedly? They shouldn't, but I guess it's a bug.

You can destroy a mini-sentry and it won't count against you.

[Vivi Hill]

I guess that's a bug in the default config. I changed it to subtract the points you get from building when you destroy a mini sentry. Is that okay? It shouldn't be possible for people to stat-whore on their own anymore--anything that gets built and destroyed loses the points it gains.

Let me know of other problems as we have the default settings again and maybe people have problems with some things.

[mrpikmin2]

the stats are fixed now! u lose half the points instead of all of em wen u die! u also get points for airshotting! cool

this sounds sweet

[bjordan]

I strongly suggest not giving points for bulding any buildings in the first place though. I know the old system was like that. Normally I build around 100 sentries 50 dispensers a day, so this system is giving me a free 400 points a day (and likely would result in point hogs taking up the only engy spot for the sake of points.

[jawsh]

Also, you need to change your stat links in profiles, they have new values too.
Unless Benny Hill, you really are "dewd", if that's the case, I've known you for like ever.

[Vivi Hill]

Well we can discuss whether or not sentries should give points, I suppose. Generally built sentries/dispensers help the team, so shouldn't they have a reward?

As for the extra points, it also tracks reflections, midair-airshots (where both are in air), stuns, and other things like sandvich eating. Not all of them give points, though. If someone wants they can say which things should award points and which shouldn't.

[mrpikmin2]

I am for points given out liberally. Sure, some people might obsess over it and do anything to get more, but I really don't think we should worry too much about giving too many points, I've never seen an engie repeatedly more a sentry out outside spawn for more points.

[bjordan]

I would say that since there is a 1 engy limit I would like no points so no one is tempted to play for the points despite having no skill.

[xigna13]

>Stats reset
>I'm okay with this

[SovietPanda]

I would say that since there is a 1 engy limit I would like no points so no one is tempted to play for the points despite having no skill.

or you can by pass this by being a donator.

[bjordan]

First of all, if I had a way to donate I would. Second of all, I mean it is not fair to the team to be down one player at all times.

[VoltySquirrel]

I would say that since there is a 1 engy limit I would like no points so no one is tempted to play for the points despite having no skill.

Actually, it's a 2 engi limit on most maps with a small number being 3 engi.

[bjordan]

It is weird I think (the limits seem higher on westbox than the slayboxes), but regardless someone who sits in back and waits all day without ever getting a kill does not deserve points. In my opinion you receive plenty of points for the work after they are built (extinguishes, kills, assists, and teleports) and that is how you gauge your performance. I joined the community instead of freefrag because I liked having to earn my points, so I do not like having the same points system as freefrag.

[Guy]

Make invul (normal) ubers worth 3 points instead of 1.
Kritz and Quick should stay at 1.

They are really hard to get up on these servers. LOL

[GoDM1N]

I strongly suggest not giving points for bulding any buildings in the first place though.

Yea! Fuck engis!

No really I fail to see the problem. Was anyone who was in the top umm say 500 actually building for HLstat points?



Also to add, we should reset the stats every week or so imo.

I would say that since there is a 1 engy limit I would like no points so no one is tempted to play for the points despite having no skill.

HLstats = skill in the 1st place?

I don't think anyone was playing engi for HLstat points and as far as this part "I would like no points so no one is tempted to play for the points" why don't we just make it so HLstats doesn't keep points at all? Then we won't have all these people sitting in spawn ect instead of trying to get people off the cart so they don't lose a whole 25 points

[bjordan]

I am simply trying to prevent a problem before it happens. There was no complaints with not giving points for buildings before so why give points? I would be the person it affects the most since I play more engy than anyone anyways and I do not see how giving me points for not doing anything is fair to the others.

Since none of you know, I was having a discussion with patrid about 6 weeks ago and he discussed how easy engy is because you get FREE points for building junk regardless of helping the team. I informed him that that was not the case. Now that is the case, and I have nothing to take pride in. Hopefully someone sees my point by the next time I see you all (2 months from now)

[VoltySquirrel]

HLStatsX is srs bzns guise.

[GoDM1N]

I am simply trying to prevent a problem before it happens.

We should stop giving points to medics who get ubers as well :3

[Guy]

I am simply trying to prevent a problem before it happens.

We should stop giving points to medics who get ubers as well :3

OH HEEEELLLLZ NOOOO
Ubers are our rewards for healing and surviving!

Also, I only play medic... The main way I get points in this thingy is by assists(3), ubers(1), and extingishes(1). (Defensive and opportunistic kills are rare, aside from spy kills.)
I bleed massive amounts of points when I die, and in my opinion is justified cause I shouldn't die anyway.
I work almost 3 times as hard getting and holding on to my points than other folks... and I hold my own in points supporting my team. :3

[Vivi Hill]

I've removed airshot sticky because you can farm it by jumping and firing a sticky underneath yourself.

[Amplify]

the stats are fixed now! u lose half the points instead of all of em wen u die! u also get points for airshotting! cool

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yeah!

[MournfulOdin]

Are Donator perks like always open slots still working? I've tried to join a couple of times through the console and it keeps kicking me out saying the server is full.

[Vivi Hill]

They should definitely be working. I'm not sure if the westbox is using the automatic donator system or not, though, if that's what you're trying. Might just be that you're not on West's list.

[Failhorse]

I've removed airshot sticky because you can farm it by jumping and firing a sticky underneath yourself.

Benny you can do this with airshot pipes and airshot flares.
The best part of flares, teammates jumping count.