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Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by NeverExclamationPT » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:34 pm

Who here is a fan?

Whats your favorite book(s), models, tabletop, games?


Ive never played the tabletop but recently, within the last 4 or so years I've read a million of 40k and fantasy. Favorite books include "Eisenhorn Omnibus" "Ravenor Omnibus" "Witch Hunter Ominbus" "Thanquol Series" and "Chiaphas Cain series".


Favorite races/character: For 40k are the Inquisitors, Fantasy is Skaven.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:19 pm

I used to run Space Marines way back in the day.

Lost a 500 point match to another Marine player when I composed my entire army of one Land Raider tank. Fucking thing SHOULD have been invincible, but he rolled really, really, really lucky.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by VoltySquirrel » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:38 pm

I would get into 40k, but it's a fucking expensive hobby. I would like to point out however that any Space Marine could fucking murder any other game character in existence without even trying, because they are the fucking shit.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:55 pm

VoltySquirrel wrote:I would get into 40k, but it's a fucking expensive hobby. I would like to point out however that any Space Marine could fucking murder any other game character in existence without even trying, because they are the fucking shit.

Well you have to look at the points system. Space Marines are fucking death incarnate (their most basic infantry has an AC of 3 ffs, or at least had one when I played), but they are NOT cheap. For the same "military presence" as one Space Marine you could get, what, 4 Tyranids? I think those numbers would beat out the Marine if they were able to get the drop on him in assault (if the Marine com is smart and uses retreating fire, then he'd probably win out with good rolls). The real fun is once you start gearing them up with elite power armor and Land Raiders; my Land Raider Crusader model has 13 guns on it; 3 twin-linked heavy bolters down each side and a Meltagun on top for any nasties. Land Raider Mk II is even more of a rape machine; it's just got 1 twin-linked Lascannon on each side (plus now-largely-superfluous meltagun), but that's two units per round of pretty much any fucking class you want at almost any point on the map (cover permitting) that are going to have a really bad fucking day.

Let's also not forget that the standard infantry squad can throw in a krak (or frag if you roll like that) launcher for dirt, dirt cheap.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by VoltySquirrel » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:09 am

I'm not talking in game, I'm talking "Who would win in a fight?"
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Spyder » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:13 am

Dwarfs are my favorite race.


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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:36 am

VoltySquirrel wrote:I'm not talking in game, I'm talking "Who would win in a fight?"

I'm saying though that you can't have 1 Space Marine fight 1 Tyrranid or 1 Zombie. You have to factor in things like military presence and strength in numbers, because for every 1 Space Marine there's 100 Tyrranids, and making them fight 1v1 isn't accurately representing their strengths.

If you ONLY want to do 1v1 fights, I'm pretty sure that Atomsk or anything else demigod tier could take down a Space Marine without blinking.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by VoltySquirrel » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:53 am

I don't think I specified I meant Space Marine vs. Characters from other universes. Like a Space Marine vs. Master Chief.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:55 am

VoltySquirrel wrote:I don't think I specified I meant Space Marine vs. Characters from other universes. Like a Space Marine vs. Master Chief.

Atomsk is from another universe.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Argent » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:47 am

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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by jawsh » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:46 am

I just finished the Space Marine video game, I liked it, but not enough to get into Warhammer.
Now if they made another game like Space Marine, I would probably play that.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:51 pm

jawsh wrote:I just finished the Space Marine video game, I liked it, but not enough to get into Warhammer.
Now if they made another game like Space Marine, I would probably play that.

I haven't heard anything about the new Space Marine video game, but I can guarantee with incredible certainty that it is nothing in the slightest like the actual 40k faction. There are some things you just don't put on tv, or into major gaming consoles.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by NeverExclamationPT » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:59 pm

*Spoiler or two, reader beware*



Its a good game, not their best but it's definitely good. A buddy and I were nerding about this and the WH galaxy while at the renaissance fest today. This game touches lightly on many things in the 40k universe, it's meant mainly for the hardercore groups that know quite a bit about 40k. A person new to the galaxy wont know what a titan is, how badass the Inquisition is (SPOILER- The Inquisition does not look fondly of people practicing/manipulating with the warp let alone letting a Psyker into their ranks. Now, the Inquisitor coming straight out and telling the Ultramarines he's a psyker is something that they most likely wouldn't do and would raise a red flag on the spot), they don't explain the omnissiah nor the Cogbogs/techpriests or how they/why they bless the machinery.

My main gripe is that the levels are a bit bland, you've got destroyed cities without much actual details, just a bunch of rubble, a few defiled shrines techpriests use. Granted the world was ravaged by Orks but still, they could have made the environments less bland. Also, they didn't explain Titans in the least, mainly, why are they trying to protect this one. How they are run, what are their functions, etc. Im aware but a casual person is not.

THQ/Relic/GW could have gone a bit more in depth but again, this was an action game, not many people want to read page upon page of backstory I guess.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:04 pm

NeverExclamationPT wrote:*Spoiler or two, reader beware*



Its a good game, not their best but it's definitely good. A buddy and I were nerding about this and the WH galaxy while at the renaissance fest today. This game touches lightly on many things in the 40k universe, it's meant mainly for the hardercore groups that know quite a bit about 40k. A person new to the galaxy wont know what a titan is, how badass the Inquisition is (SPOILER- The Inquisition does not look fondly of people practicing/manipulating with the warp let alone letting a Psyker into their ranks. Now, the Inquisitor coming straight out and telling the Ultramarines he's a psyker is something that they most likely wouldn't do and would raise a red flag on the spot), they don't explain the omnissiah nor the Cogbogs/techpriests or how they/why they bless the machinery.

My main gripe is that the levels are a bit bland, you've got destroyed cities without much actual details, just a bunch of rubble, a few defiled shrines techpriests use. Granted the world was ravaged by Orks but still, they could have made the environments less bland. Also, they didn't explain Titans in the least, mainly, why are they trying to protect this one. How they are run, what are their functions, etc. Im aware but a casual person is not.

THQ/Relic/GW could have gone a bit more in depth but again, this was an action game, not many people want to read page upon page of backstory I guess.


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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by VoltySquirrel » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:25 am

I still liked it. The combat was fucking awesome and it truly made you feel like a badass Space Marine. I mean, come on, name to me one game where the only way to regain health is to kill more enemies instead of hiding behind a rock for 15 seconds.
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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by jawsh » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:20 am

VoltySquirrel wrote:I still liked it. The combat was fucking awesome and it truly made you feel like a badass Space Marine. I mean, come on, name to me one game where the only way to regain health is to kill more enemies instead of hiding behind a rock for 15 seconds.

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Re: Warhammer (40k-Fantasy)

by Techercizer » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:55 am

VoltySquirrel wrote:I still liked it. The combat was fucking awesome and it truly made you feel like a badass Space Marine. I mean, come on, name to me one game where the only way to regain health is to kill more enemies instead of hiding behind a rock for 15 seconds.

Diablo 2. Any health-pickup based game ever.

Plus, Space Marines aren't about brutal beserk rages that leave them unable to die from the frenzy they form; they're servants of the Emperor, protected by his "divine grace and guidance" and his not-quite-as-divine power armor. In fact, I'm pretty sure that at least some of the Chaos Marines are impossible to kill if the person fighting them takes pleasure from the combat.
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