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PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:25 am

It's not acceptable to call me a demo!

spread the word - to end the word

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by BoB Dolen » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:36 am

Yet another retarded PSA.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:21 am

An R-word Montage

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:22 am

Eliminate the R-word PSA 2

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:26 am

Spread the Word to End the Word

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:27 am

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:30 am

I leave you with this!

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Spyder » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:30 am

BoB Dolen wrote:Yet another retarded PSA.

QFT.

I'm tired of all these overly-sensitive neanderthals that try to act like the "word-police".

It's acceptable to call a Caucasian person a "cracker-ass cracker" but you can't use the "n" word ever, lest you become a pariah. In my opinion, double standards are always worse than crude racial remarks.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Techercizer » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:38 am

Spyder wrote:
BoB Dolen wrote:Yet another retarded PSA.

QFT.

I'm tired of all these overly-sensitive neanderthals that try to act like the "word-police".

It's acceptable to call a Caucasian person a "cracker-ass cracker" but you can't use the "n" word ever, lest you become a pariah. In my opinion, double standards are always worse than crude racial remarks.


I've just always felt all those words in general were a crutch for people who couldn't take the time to adequately express themselves. I mean, sure, I could call someone retarded or a stupid cracker when they go off the rails (circumstance and skin colour permitting), but it's generally more meaningful and worthwhile to take the half a second to rummage up the words to call them a dogmatic idiot or a incoherent puppet hurled carelessly onto the stage of our world.

There is, quite frankly, no excuse for not taking that extra second to refine your insults; you'll feel better, your audience will feel better, and your victim will either feel better or worse depending on how scathing you're trying to be.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Harri » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:38 am

Spyder wrote:
BoB Dolen wrote:Yet another retarded PSA.

QFT.

I'm tired of all these overly-sensitive neanderthals that try to act like the "word=police".



I think you misunderstand the purpose of this PSA. It's obviously aimed at children and teens (the audience for Glee). That audience absorbs more from the media than they do in the classroom. I think it's a smooth way to influence teens to speak to each other in a respectable way. I have and will spank my siblings for saying words like retard, fag, or cunt. It's not something children/teens should say. Coming from someone who has been called a racist/sexist slur term before (on many occasions), it's not fun and it makes you feel very hurt and frustrated. I broke a girls nose for it in high school.

You're adults, I assume, you have a right to decide what to say on your own.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Techercizer » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:41 am

Harri brings up another good point. It's one thing if you're familiar with the history and connotations of "politically incorrect" words; when people who don't know (or really feel) the history behind them start just saying them for the sake of saying them because they've been inundated with imitable instances in popular culture, you start sliding from free choice of words into careless debasement.

It's the difference between your office mate saying "God, that customer was an absolute faggot..." and your son telling his teacher to "Stop being such a nigger and tell me what I got!"
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Spyder » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:09 pm

Harri wrote:
Spyder wrote:
BoB Dolen wrote:Yet another retarded PSA.

QFT.

I'm tired of all these overly-sensitive neanderthals that try to act like the "word=police".



I think you misunderstand the purpose of this PSA. It's obviously aimed at children and teens (the audience for Glee). That audience absorbs more from the media than they do in the classroom. I think it's a smooth way to influence teens to speak to each other in a respectable way. I have and will spank my siblings for saying words like retard, fag, or cunt. It's not something children/teens should say. Coming from someone who has been called a racist/sexist slur term before (on many occasions), it's not fun and it makes you feel very hurt and frustrated. I broke a girls nose for it in high school.

You're adults, I assume, you have a right to decide what to say on your own.

"It's obviously aimed at children and teens (the audience for Glee)"

I laughed aloud.

But yeah, I can see your point, though I can't fully agree with it.

The audience does absorb more from the Media (which is sad), but it also seems to contradict to an extent. They'll put out these preachy PSAs to tell younger folk not to say something derogatory, but at the same time the audience will tune in to trash like Jersey Shore and Real World. Does that mean it's a smooth way to teach kids to tan their skin orange, drink heavily, fuck, smoke and fight with each other over mundane causes?

In my opinion, the younger generations need to be taught how to have thicker skin, and/or learn how to turn the other cheek. The way I see it, by saying "You know, you really shouldn't say that" you're only encouraging them to say it more by giving a reaction.

Finally, I forgot to mention this about Mad Anthony's first video: Towards the end, the woman says "The R word is the same as every minority slur." I don't know about the rest of you, but I think there's a marginal gap between mental retardation and ethnic origin.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Maringue » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:36 pm

re·tard·ed
adj, \ri-ˈtär-dəd\
Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

The problem between retarded and other slurs is simple. If you analytically look at the definition of retarded (the above one is from Webster and I'm not a fan), which is to slow something down and/or hold something behind normal progression it actually accurately describes the person in question.

Putting any negative connotation onto the word after that is your own problem. When I call someone retarded, I literally mean that this person's mental development has been slowed compared to a person of normal intelligence, the reason for that fact is immaterial. For handicapped people, it's a genetic anomaly or disease. For stupid rednecks, it's ignorance and local societal norms.

I personally don't call mentally handicapped people retarded because, like ethnic origin, the person in question had no say in the matter. However, this is not the case for the normal, healthy people I call retarded. These people are stupid of their own volition and they have no one to blame but themselves, so fuck'em.

And just to be clear, I'm not talking about anyone who disagrees with me. I'm talking about anyone who has no basis in fact or logic for their beliefs or arguments.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by BoB Dolen » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:44 pm

Maringue wrote:re·tard·ed
adj, \ri-ˈtär-dəd\
Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

The problem between retarded and other slurs is simple. If you analytically look at the definition of retarded (the above one is from Webster and I'm not a fan), which is to slow something down and/or hold something behind normal progression it actually accurately describes the person in question.

Putting any negative connotation onto the word after that is your own problem. When I call someone retarded, I literally mean that this person's mental development has been slowed compared to a person of normal intelligence, the reason for that fact is immaterial. For handicapped people, it's a genetic anomaly or disease. For stupid rednecks, it's ignorance and local societal norms.

I personally don't call mentally handicapped people retarded because, like ethnic origin, the person in question had no say in the matter. However, this is not the case for the normal, healthy people I call retarded. These people are stupid of their own volition and they have no one to blame but themselves, so fuck'em.

And just to be clear, I'm not talking about anyone who disagrees with me. I'm talking about anyone who has no basis in fact or logic for their beliefs or arguments.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Patrid » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:46 pm

BoB Dolen wrote:
Maringue wrote:re·tard·ed
adj, \ri-ˈtär-dəd\
Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

The problem between retarded and other slurs is simple. If you analytically look at the definition of retarded (the above one is from Webster and I'm not a fan), which is to slow something down and/or hold something behind normal progression it actually accurately describes the person in question.

Putting any negative connotation onto the word after that is your own problem. When I call someone retarded, I literally mean that this person's mental development has been slowed compared to a person of normal intelligence, the reason for that fact is immaterial. For handicapped people, it's a genetic anomaly or disease. For stupid rednecks, it's ignorance and local societal norms.

I personally don't call mentally handicapped people retarded because, like ethnic origin, the person in question had no say in the matter. However, this is not the case for the normal, healthy people I call retarded. These people are stupid of their own volition and they have no one to blame but themselves, so fuck'em.

And just to be clear, I'm not talking about anyone who disagrees with me. I'm talking about anyone who has no basis in fact or logic for their beliefs or arguments.
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Fuck your retarded.

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Maringue » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:02 pm

I know, I never use facts or logic to explain anything.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Harri » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:00 pm

Spyder wrote:The audience does absorb more from the Media (which is sad), but it also seems to contradict to an extent. They'll put out these preachy PSAs to tell younger folk not to say something derogatory, but at the same time the audience will tune in to trash like Jersey Shore and Real World. Does that mean it's a smooth way to teach kids to tan their skin orange, drink heavily, fuck, smoke and fight with each other over mundane causes?

In my opinion, the younger generations need to be taught how to have thicker skin, and/or learn how to turn the other cheek. The way I see it, by saying "You know, you really shouldn't say that" you're only encouraging them to say it more by giving a reaction.



How do you suggest thickening children's skin? It seems like you are suggesting we should teach children how to be apathetic. I think teaching an apathetic attitude is the worst thing we can do for children. Naturally, saying "don't do that," automatically means do it for children. As a child, I was told 'say it at your own risk'. My father didn't care if I cursed. He just said it made me unintelligent. It was a great approach. I was taught that, by saying slur terms, I was depriving my mind the possibility to advance my own vocabulary. But, then again I was raised by a man from a non-American background. Not to sound biased, but American children are the worst.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by stanley » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:38 pm

Maringue wrote:re·tard·ed
adj, \ri-ˈtär-dəd\
Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

The problem between retarded and other slurs is simple. If you analytically look at the definition of retarded (the above one is from Webster and I'm not a fan), which is to slow something down and/or hold something behind normal progression it actually accurately describes the person in question.

Putting any negative connotation onto the word after that is your own problem. When I call someone retarded, I literally mean that this person's mental development has been slowed compared to a person of normal intelligence, the reason for that fact is immaterial. For handicapped people, it's a genetic anomaly or disease. For stupid rednecks, it's ignorance and local societal norms.

I personally don't call mentally handicapped people retarded because, like ethnic origin, the person in question had no say in the matter. However, this is not the case for the normal, healthy people I call retarded. These people are stupid of their own volition and they have no one to blame but themselves, so fuck'em.

And just to be clear, I'm not talking about anyone who disagrees with me. I'm talking about anyone who has no basis in fact or logic for their beliefs or arguments.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Toaster » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:52 pm

I'm pretty sure most people just don't know what the words mean to begin with, for example:

Fag: Someone who does shit thats really cheap and annoying. "Woah Zclipse, you're playing defensively in mge scouts because you're about to lose, you're such a fag."

Retard: Someone that sucks and can't help it; calling them retarded will let them know how bad they are and they'll hopefully improve. "Ackbar you know you've done nothing this entire game, you must be afk or retarded."

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:10 pm

The new R word = PYRO!!
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Ackybur » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:32 pm

Toaster wrote:I'm pretty sure most people just don't know what the words mean to begin with, for example:

Fag: Someone who does shit thats really cheap and annoying. "Woah Zclipse, you're playing defensively in mge scouts because you're about to lose, you're such a fag."

Retard: Someone that sucks and can't help it; calling them retarded will let them know how bad they are and they'll hopefully improve. "Ackbar you know you've done nothing this entire game, you must be afk or retarded."

Nigge- Oh wait are you guys actually taking this topic seriously? AAAHHHHH i just bit my lip while eating a carrot... its bleeding T___T




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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Jake » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:59 pm

Harri wrote:
Spyder wrote:The audience does absorb more from the Media (which is sad), but it also seems to contradict to an extent. They'll put out these preachy PSAs to tell younger folk not to say something derogatory, but at the same time the audience will tune in to trash like Jersey Shore and Real World. Does that mean it's a smooth way to teach kids to tan their skin orange, drink heavily, fuck, smoke and fight with each other over mundane causes?

In my opinion, the younger generations need to be taught how to have thicker skin, and/or learn how to turn the other cheek. The way I see it, by saying "You know, you really shouldn't say that" you're only encouraging them to say it more by giving a reaction.



How do you suggest thickening children's skin? It seems like you are suggesting we should teach children how to be apathetic. I think teaching an apathetic attitude is the worst thing we can do for children. Naturally, saying "don't do that," automatically means do it for children. As a child, I was told 'say it at your own risk'. My father didn't care if I cursed. He just said it made me unintelligent. It was a great approach. I was taught that, by saying slur terms, I was depriving my mind the possibility to advance my own vocabulary. But, then again I was raised by a man from a non-American background. Not to sound biased, but American children are the worst.


Why can't we teach children the value of our freedom of speech? Words are just vessels for intent and each of us has the ability to judge the speaker/author based on our system of morals; none of us has the right to say that something shouldn't be said.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

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Admiral Ackybur wrote:At least I'm not a fag...z.


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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Patrid » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:37 pm

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Sirnak » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:41 pm

Srsly? A topic like that again? OK then, I'm gonna repeat myself then...

Words mean nothing. Words are simply a code. What matters is the message behind the code. There are no such things as "harmless words" for ANY word can be used to hurt people. You want me to prove the logic behind my point? Awright. I'll take some examples in this topic. (No offense to anyone; I just want to show an EXAMPLE. I respect any and all people I'll use to illustrate my opinion. In fact, if I use them, it's especially because I respect them.):

Jake wrote:Why can't we teach children the value of our freedom of speech? Words are just vessels for intent and each of us has the ability to judge the speaker/author based on our system of morals; none of us has the right to say that something shouldn't be said.


Sure, Jake. You are soooooooo intelligent after all.

Harri wrote:How do you suggest thickening children's skin? It seems like you are suggesting we should teach children how to be apathetic. I think teaching an apathetic attitude is the worst thing we can do for children. Naturally, saying "don't do that," automatically means do it for children. As a child, I was told 'say it at your own risk'. My father didn't care if I cursed. He just said it made me unintelligent. It was a great approach. I was taught that, by saying slur terms, I was depriving my mind the possibility to advance my own vocabulary. But, then again I was raised by a man from a non-American background. Not to sound biased, but American children are the worst.


Miss Perfect shares her opinion again. Great.

/example finished. These words kinda hurt and are offensive, aren't they? Yet, I only said to Jake he was intelligent and to Harri she was perfect (not much of an insult, is it?). Personally, the insult I received that hurt me the most was, in fact, when a girl called me "Mr. Perfect". What can I do about it? Ask to banish the P-word? I've kept repeating myself on that matter, but as long as people feel the need to express something, they'll find words to suit what they want to say. It's a FACT. You CAN'T deny it. What matters is NOT the word "retard", it's the hatred behind the word.

Don't attack the code. Attack the message... That's what I'll always keep thinking anyway. :/
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Sirnak » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:57 pm

Jake wrote:If retards were more useful, then the word would have never gained its negative connotation. :shock:


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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Harri » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:04 pm

Sirnak wrote:Srsly? A topic like that again? OK then, I'm gonna repeat myself then...

Words mean nothing. Words are simply a code. What matters is the message behind the code. There are no such things as "harmless words" for ANY word can be used to hurt people. You want me to prove the logic behind my point? Awright. I'll take some examples in this topic. (No offense to anyone; I just want to show an EXAMPLE. I respect any and all people I'll use to illustrate my opinion. In fact, if I use them, it's especially because I respect them.)

Miss Perfect shares her opinion again. Great.

/example finished. These words kinda hurt and are offensive, aren't they? Yet, I only said to Jake he was intelligent and to Harri she was perfect (not much of an insult, is it?). Personally, the insult I received that hurt me the most was, in fact, when a girl called me "Mr. Perfect". What can I do about it? Ask to banish the P-word? I've kept repeating myself on that matter, but as long as people feel the need to express something, they'll find words to suit what they want to say. It's a FACT. You CAN'T deny it. What matters is NOT the word "retard", it's the hatred behind the word.

Don't attack the code. Attack the message... That's what I'll always keep thinking anyway. :/


I will never agree with this, and I think you understand why Sirnak. I do not completely disagree with some of your points, but I do feel that words (some words) are as bad as an actual weapon.

Words are power. They are weapons and tools. Words will linger long past the sting of a physical assault. Words can enthrall, enrage, arouse, and aggravate; they can be the catalyst of a fired bullet. We are beings that have created hundreds of languages to express ourselves. Words themselves carry meaning, because we give them meaning. An example used in this thread is fag. It's an offensive word for many Americans/Canadians, but in Europe it holds a different meaning. No word can be cleansed of it's bad connotation. I will not reclaim cunt because I think it empowers me. I will not reuse spic (spick) to my family because I think it endears our heritage. We articulate our hatred of the 'other' by using words. What separates a well-organized mind from a collection of molecules is our control of words. As you have exemplified for us in your use of perfect and intelligent, words bend and change. Yes they are codes for a deeper meaning, but by using a word to express a hateful meaning you are creating a weapon. Is a gun a code with a deeper meaning? It only carries a past; a reason for why it is used.

There are many different approaches to censoring our language. I believe that words used to hurt cannot be reused. You are only exemplifying your ignorance of that word's origin and purpose. On a scale of severity for hateful words I assume that retard does not rank as high as others. It is likely that, in our lifetime, the word retard will not be redefined as a positive thing. Unless you are looking for a fight, using such words are not suggested.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Sirnak » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:27 pm

Harri wrote:
Sirnak wrote:Srsly? A topic like that again? OK then, I'm gonna repeat myself then...

Words mean nothing. Words are simply a code. What matters is the message behind the code. There are no such things as "harmless words" for ANY word can be used to hurt people. You want me to prove the logic behind my point? Awright. I'll take some examples in this topic. (No offense to anyone; I just want to show an EXAMPLE. I respect any and all people I'll use to illustrate my opinion. In fact, if I use them, it's especially because I respect them.)

Miss Perfect shares her opinion again. Great.

/example finished. These words kinda hurt and are offensive, aren't they? Yet, I only said to Jake he was intelligent and to Harri she was perfect (not much of an insult, is it?). Personally, the insult I received that hurt me the most was, in fact, when a girl called me "Mr. Perfect". What can I do about it? Ask to banish the P-word? I've kept repeating myself on that matter, but as long as people feel the need to express something, they'll find words to suit what they want to say. It's a FACT. You CAN'T deny it. What matters is NOT the word "retard", it's the hatred behind the word.

Don't attack the code. Attack the message... That's what I'll always keep thinking anyway. :/


I will never agree with this, and I think you understand why Sirnak. I do not completely disagree with some of your points, but I do feel that words (some words) are as bad as an actual weapon.

Words are power. They are weapons and tools. Words will linger long past the sting of a physical assault. Words can enthrall, enrage, arouse, and aggravate; they can be the catalyst of a fired bullet. We are beings that have created hundreds of languages to express ourselves. Words themselves carry meaning, because we give them meaning. An example used in this thread is fag. It's an offensive word for many Americans/Canadians, but in Europe it holds a different meaning. No word can be cleansed of it's bad connotation. I will not reclaim cunt because I think it empowers me. I will not reuse spic (spick) to my family because I think it endears our heritage. We articulate our hatred of the 'other' by using words. What separates a well-organized mind from a collection of molecules is our control of words. As you have exemplified for us in your use of perfect and intelligent, words bend and change. Yes they are codes for a deeper meaning, but by using a word to express a hateful meaning you are creating a weapon. Is a gun a code with a deeper meaning? It only carries a past; a reason for why it is used.

There are many different approaches to censoring our language. I believe that words used to hurt cannot be reused. You are only exemplifying your ignorance of that word's origin and purpose. On a scale of severity for hateful words I assume that retard does not rank as high as others. It is likely that, in our lifetime, the word retard will not be redefined as a positive thing. Unless you are looking for a fight, using such words are not suggested.


Indeed, words bend and change. And my point is EXACTLY that. Since they can change whenever the speaker (or writer) decides them too, it's useless to ban a word since another one will replace it naturally in the mind of the one who wishes to communicate.

"Exemplifying your ignorance of that word's origin and purpose"? No word has an"evil" origin. Not a single word was created for insulting or hurting someone. In fact, if you'd search the origin of "evil" words like nigger and dyke, you'd find out they really didn't generally have any bad intent at first.

I'd agree using a "slang" word randomly can show your ignorance of the HISTORY behind the word though. And knowing the HISTORY of words can be a bad thing at my opinion. Knowing the history of some words is often what makes these words more "evil" than others for the population.

For instance, look at the word "nigger". If black parents wouldn't teach their newborn children what happened to black people in America in the past, the children wouldn't think "nigger" to be a bad word. If white parents aren't racist and use that word when they talk about black people, their children wouldn't think it's a bad word either. If people absolutely want to link a word with some history that has no link with its origin, it's a shame, but it's life.

Here in my dear Quebec, most children of my small city never knew that "nigger" was a bad word since our parents would always call balck people like that. In fact, when I was little, I misheard the word "nigger" and for me it kept sounding like the French word for "eagle". So I kept calling black people "eagles" until the age of 15-16. I met many black boys in my young years and since they were called nigger all the time (and this word was never used with any kind of hatred), they learned to be called niggers like us to be called whites. Nigger simply and only means "black" so of course they wouldn't be offended. Even when they finally learned the story of USA and slavery of black people this word took very little meaning for them since they (nor their parents) never really lived racism here.

I never knew until my 18-19 years old that "nigger" was still considered like a banned word in USA (thanks to South Park).

You said you'd never agree with my way of thinking. Well it's your choice. Eagles will still be eagles tomorrow after all. lol

ALSO, how the fuck did some random topic with some random commercial posted by the adorably random Mad Anthony managed to drive such a discussion? Madie, you are a god.
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Re: PSA: Don't Use The D-Word

by Mad Anthony » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:18 pm

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