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by GoDM1N » Tue May 31, 2011 6:14 pm

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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Guy » Tue May 31, 2011 7:06 pm

ahahaha *snort* ahahaha, that slaps me on the knee!
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Ackybur » Tue May 31, 2011 7:12 pm

Westboro is full of idiots and really needs to burn down with every one of them inside. It makes me sick on some of the things they do. Who the fuck protests in a town that was demolished by a tornado? WBC in Joplin does.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Harri » Tue May 31, 2011 7:16 pm

They are disgusting people. You know you're a terrible terrible person when the KKK protest you.

Yo white people. You need to get some better representation. The KKK and Westboro are battling it out to see whose the most unintelligent. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry. I'm just quoting my father's adorable comments.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Guy » Tue May 31, 2011 7:19 pm

Two social embrassments pointing fingers and fighting at our fallen heroes' funeral service.
I agree though, something is up when you got the KKK protesting you... oh lordy...
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by BoB Dolen » Tue May 31, 2011 7:42 pm

I remember years back when the protested my friends school.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by GoDM1N » Tue May 31, 2011 7:43 pm

BoB Dolen wrote:I remember years back when the protested my friends school.

Who the KKK or WBC?
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by BoB Dolen » Tue May 31, 2011 7:45 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
BoB Dolen wrote:I remember years back when the protested my friends school.

Who the KKK or WBC?


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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Ackybur » Tue May 31, 2011 9:35 pm

Was you school allowing a gay couple to go to prom? Or maybe they were teaching safe sex? Had to be one of those terrible crimes against humanity to get WBC to come
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Maringue » Tue May 31, 2011 11:33 pm

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Westboro is full of idiots and really needs to burn down with every one of them inside. It makes me sick on some of the things they do. Who the fuck protests in a town that was demolished by a tornado? WBC in Joplin does.

If it hit a state with a large Democrat population (like Florida), Pat Robertson would have said it's the will of God. Now that natural disasters are laying waste to the bible belt and anyone who's voted against gay rights, he's pretty fucking quite.

I mean have any of these people read the Bible? Jesus was totally a hippy. Wandering around in sandals with 12 other dudes with scraggly beards talking about peace and love? But apparently it's not a problem for the religious conservatives in this country if the actual words of Jesus don't agree with their message, they can still spin it on Fox News.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by BoB Dolen » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:08 am

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Was you school allowing a gay couple to go to prom? Or maybe they were teaching safe sex? Had to be one of those terrible crimes against humanity to get WBC to come


Was for a Gay club that had formed at his highschool.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:55 am

I don't really understand this progressively selective counter hatred of this church. If looked at objectively their views on the world stem from the most literal interpretations of the modern Christian bible. I can understand Maringue's feelings on the matter and while the utopian peace-loving Christianity is one that's been most popularized lately, the truth of the matter is that supposing God exists and he is the Judeo-Christian form that most of us identify with the bible, he's filled with the hateful sentiments that the WBC members make very public.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Mad Anthony » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:03 am

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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Maringue » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:17 am

Jake wrote:I don't really understand this progressively selective counter hatred of this church. If looked at objectively their views on the world stem from the most literal interpretations of the modern Christian bible. I can understand Maringue's feelings on the matter and while the utopian peace-loving Christianity is one that's been most popularized lately, the truth of the matter is that supposing God exists and he is the Judeo-Christian form that most of us identify with the bible, he's filled with the hateful sentiments that the WBC members make very public.

This theory of yours goes against most of what is actually written in the Bible, what most respected religious scholars believe and what the actual clergy teaches.

These people are freaks who hate gay people, probably because they scare them. End of story.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:18 pm

What's cute Maringue, is that I address all of your points in my original post. Just because you disagree with something doesn't necessarily make it wrong. The pastor and members of the westboro baptist church are using literal interpretation of old testament scripture where most of the world would choose to use a more veiled interpretations, or none at all. The christian god the bible describes is one of contradiction and a mass of emotions. There's a bunch of not-so-awesome stuff in there that people don't like to talk about on sunday. YMMV of course.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Spyder » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:38 pm

Mainstream religions suck ass from a straw, but don't let them squash your faith down in whatever god you believe in.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by GoDM1N » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:05 pm




Also I use to watch this show, love it lol


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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Maringue » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:10 pm

Jake wrote:What's cute Maringue, is that I address all of your points in my original post. Just because you disagree with something doesn't necessarily make it wrong. The pastor and members of the westboro baptist church are using literal interpretation of old testament scripture where most of the world would choose to use a more veiled interpretations, or none at all. The christian god the bible describes is one of contradiction and a mass of emotions. There's a bunch of not-so-awesome stuff in there that people don't like to talk about on sunday. YMMV of course.

What WBC does is pick out a single line from an entire book, kind of the definition of taking something out of context.

To quote Shakespeare: "The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."

Also, I'm not really even religious, but I can't stand fuckers that claim to be even though they violate almost all of the tenants of said religion.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:00 pm

But with a vehicle so flawed by contradiction, I can't see how they're any better or worse than a church whose message is one of love, yet chooses to ignore all of the hatred present in the canon.

The Merchant of Venice is hardly the biblical reference I would have chosen, I would have taken Matthew chapter 4 verse 5 through 7. That's when the devil told Jesus to throw himself from the temple and being the son of god, the angels would save him from death. Jesus' rebuttal only further exposes the fallibility of the scripture since his reply is simply "You don't test god". Despite the double edged nature I feel it sums up the contextual issues of the bible quite well being an internal reference and all.

We despise all reverences and all the objects of reverence which are outside the pale of our own list of sacred things. And yet, with strange inconsistency, we are shocked when other people despise and defile the things which are holy to us. - Mark Twain.

You have to remember that my sentiment isn't determining whether they are nice people or not. Only that they choose to follow a path less appreciated by modern christianity. A prime example is their understanding of Orthodox Christians and Catholics methods of worship. They feel it constitutes idolatry and as such it must be condemned.

I echo your feelings on hypocrisy in religion but the truth as I see it is that it's impossible to remain consistent when your source material is the bible.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Ackybur » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:10 pm

WBC is full of morons. They're disrespectful, bigots, and over all bad people. If they interpret the bible in that fashion, good for them, but I don't want to hear their hateful comments at a soldiers funeral.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:16 pm

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/no- ... neral.html

There are things we can all do to prevent their message from becoming a public one. I'm not sure that it really makes a difference but I often call my congress person to talk about issues I feel are important to my community and state.
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by Ackybur » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:34 pm

You know you're not making a difference right? Who are we to them but random people?
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:40 pm

I donate to the EFF when I can and I'm fairly active when it comes to things I feel strongly about. I entertain the thought that perhaps in some way I make a difference in those issues, but that's part of the process. It's cathartic that I attempted to help, not so much that there was a definite result; although it's often the case when supporting the EFF that there is a favorable result.
I'm not personally advocating opposing the WBC, I just meant to say that there is always something (not necessarily an effective something) that can be done.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Sirnak » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:15 pm

Jake wrote:I donate to the EFF when I can and I'm fairly active when it comes to things I feel strongly about. I entertain the thought that perhaps in some way I make a difference in those issues, but that's part of the process. It's cathartic that I attempted to help, not so much that there was a definite result; although it's often the case when supporting the EFF that there is a favorable result.
I'm not personally advocating opposing the WBC, I just meant to say that there is always something (not necessarily an effective something) that can be done.


I don't know what the EFF is (maybe because I don't live in USA), but it sounds like a good organization. Frankly, if you did something for your community and fight for your beliefs, it makes you a valuable human being.

I don't remember who first said that humans are defined by their actions, but I DO believe it's true. If you do nothing, you are nothing. That's the sad truth I realized during my yet young life.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Ackybur » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:25 pm

Sirnak wrote:
Jake wrote:I donate to the EFF when I can and I'm fairly active when it comes to things I feel strongly about. I entertain the thought that perhaps in some way I make a difference in those issues, but that's part of the process. It's cathartic that I attempted to help, not so much that there was a definite result; although it's often the case when supporting the EFF that there is a favorable result.
I'm not personally advocating opposing the WBC, I just meant to say that there is always something (not necessarily an effective something) that can be done.


I don't know what the EFF is (maybe because I don't live in USA), but it sounds like a good organization. Frankly, if you did something for your community and fight for your beliefs, it makes you a valuable human being.

I don't remember who first said that humans are defined by their actions, but I DO believe it's true. If you do nothing, you are nothing. That's the sad truth I realized during my yet young life.


Eh some believe that. I am too busy taking care of my own life to deal with the nonsense in the world and I'm content with that :)
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:28 pm

Sirnak wrote:I don't know what the EFF is (maybe because I don't live in USA), but it sounds like a good organization. Frankly, if you did something for your community and fight for your beliefs, it makes you a valuable human being.

I don't remember who first said that humans are defined by their actions, but I DO believe it's true. If you do nothing, you are nothing. That's the sad truth I realized during my yet young life.


http://www.eff.org/
https://www.eff.org/issues/international
Their organization often has merit outside the USA.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:33 pm

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Eh some believe that. I am too busy taking care of my own life to deal with the nonsense in the world and I'm content with that :)


I don't support social advocacy just for the sake of it but it is idealistic to think that you'll never run into someone with the initiative and authority to tell you to stop doing something you want to do.

Even still, all of these silly discussions will be rendered moot when the zombie apocalypse comes.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Ackybur » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:35 pm

Jake wrote:
Admiral Ackybur wrote:Eh some believe that. I am too busy taking care of my own life to deal with the nonsense in the world and I'm content with that :)


I don't support social advocacy just for the sake of it but it is idealistic to think that you'll never run into someone with the initiative and authority to tell you to stop doing something you want to do.

Even still, all of these silly discussions will be rendered moot when the zombie apocalypse comes.


Or until Anthonys next vidoe thread pushes this to the next page :)
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by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:24 pm

I can't stand the tension anymore, here's a picture of a kitty cat.

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by Guy » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:44 pm

Jake wrote:I can't stand the tension anymore, here's a picture of a kitty cat.

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Why can't we all just get along?
Why can't we just praise and give thanks to our fallen heroes and thier families for their sacrifice and service?
Why does so much hate, fear mongering, greed, and so much more evil... come from this religion when it says it doesn't nothing but promote peace and love? I have been on the bad side of it, as I am gay and a non-christian. Peace and love my ass.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by BoB Dolen » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:26 pm

Jake wrote:What's cute Maringue, is that I address all of your points in my original post. Just because you disagree with something doesn't necessarily make it wrong. The pastor and members of the westboro baptist church are using literal interpretation of old testament scripture where most of the world would choose to use a more veiled interpretations, or none at all. The christian god the bible describes is one of contradiction and a mass of emotions. There's a bunch of not-so-awesome stuff in there that people don't like to talk about on sunday. YMMV of course.


But that doesn't address how illogical they usual are.
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by GoDM1N » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:34 pm

Admiral Ackybur wrote:You know you're not making a difference right? Who are we to them but random people?

Voters :3
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by Jake » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:52 pm

BoB Dolen wrote:
Jake wrote:What's cute Maringue, is that I address all of your points in my original post. Just because you disagree with something doesn't necessarily make it wrong. The pastor and members of the westboro baptist church are using literal interpretation of old testament scripture where most of the world would choose to use a more veiled interpretations, or none at all. The christian god the bible describes is one of contradiction and a mass of emotions. There's a bunch of not-so-awesome stuff in there that people don't like to talk about on sunday. YMMV of course.


But that doesn't address how illogical they usual are.


It's religion. Faith is one of the most illogical concepts we've been able to come up with.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Ackybur » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:11 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
Admiral Ackybur wrote:You know you're not making a difference right? Who are we to them but random people?

Voters :3

Rarely does that really matter. Sure I like voting for regional comptroller but that's really the only time do we get a say.
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by GoDM1N » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:59 pm

Admiral Ackybur wrote:Rarely does that really matter. Sure I like voting for regional comptroller but that's really the only time do we get a say.

The voters have all the say, its how people get elected in the 1st place
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Sirnak » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:37 pm

Jake wrote:
BoB Dolen wrote:
Jake wrote:What's cute Maringue, is that I address all of your points in my original post. Just because you disagree with something doesn't necessarily make it wrong. The pastor and members of the westboro baptist church are using literal interpretation of old testament scripture where most of the world would choose to use a more veiled interpretations, or none at all. The christian god the bible describes is one of contradiction and a mass of emotions. There's a bunch of not-so-awesome stuff in there that people don't like to talk about on sunday. YMMV of course.


But that doesn't address how illogical they usual are.


It's religion. Faith is one of the most illogical concepts we've been able to come up with.


Actually, I think exactly the other way around. I'd tend to say the real problem is that religion and faith are the most logical concepts humans ever came up with. That's what scares me at night... o.o

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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by GoDM1N » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:59 pm

Sirnak wrote:THAT, and random TF2 porn with Heavies and Medics. Wtf?

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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Jake » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:10 am

Sirnak wrote:
Jake wrote:It's religion. Faith is one of the most illogical concepts we've been able to come up with.


Actually, I think exactly the other way around. I'd tend to say the real problem is that religion and faith are the most logical concepts humans ever came up with. That's what scares me at night... o.o

THAT, and random TF2 porn with Heavies and Medics. Wtf?


Just as a simple example we will use google's definition of logic.
1. Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
2. A particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference.

Just to remain consistent we will also use google's definition of faith as it pertains to this discussion.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Examples -
I am Jake. I have a profile on a bbw dating website. It believe that I will get a date with a pretty, ruddy cheeked, thick calved girl. - This is logic. My belief makes sense in the context of the environment that I am operating in. My profile is directed towards the specific target group that I'm interested in and I have good facial symmetry and eat box like it's going out of style. It is logical to think that I will get a date.

I am Jake still. I have a profile on a TF2 gaming forum. I believe that I will get a date with a pretty, ruddy cheeked, thick calved girl. - This is faith. My belief isn't dependent on a connection between my intent and my environment, it's based on how I arbitrarily feel about it.
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Re: KKK Counter-Protests ‘God Hates ***s’ Church

by Guy » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:53 am

GoDM1N wrote:
Sirnak wrote:THAT, and random TF2 porn with Heavies and Medics. Wtf?

Been to Guys house I see


*Porn music with a what sounds like a heavy and medic moaning in the background*

I DO NO SUCH THING!

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