How the sandvich contest made you whine

[Mongoose]

How is using photoshop unfair?

[Techercizer]

How is using photoshop unfair?

Because failhorse is a sadist.

Though modern popularization suggests the three wise men were following a star, it might be more apt to say they followed a sandvich.

No matter how I tried, I couldn't get transparency working in any of my online editors.

[Failhorse]

photoshop isn't fair as not everyone has it. Suck it up and get inventive. I've seen some insane work from the online editors.

also

Though modern popularization suggests the three wise men were following a star, it might be more apt to say they followed a sandvich.

legendary i said history not fairy tale.

[HibiscusKazeneko]

photoshop isn't fair as not everyone has it. Suck it up and get inventive. I've seen some insane work from the online editors.

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

[NBC011795]

photoshop isn't fair as not everyone has it. Suck it up and get inventive. I've seen some insane work from the online editors.

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

Yes, I agree, Gimp would have saved me A LOT of trouble.

[Techercizer]

photoshop isn't fair as not everyone has it. Suck it up and get inventive. I've seen some insane work from the online editors.

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

Yes, I agree, Gimp would have saved me A LOT of trouble.

I wanted to use GIMP so bad; I could have actually done some real image manipulation instead of just importing, warping, colouring, and erasing...

Also, handicapping people who have spent large amounts of time familiarizing themselves with an industry standard tool just because a few entrants might not have it is like forcing contestants in American Idol to do all their songs in grunts because some contestants might not have English as their first language. Maybe people without photoshop will do even better than the ones with it, just using the resources at hand. Maybe they won't. Either way, you're not improving their submissions in the slightest; the only thing you might accomplish is making everyone else's submission harder to produce or of lower quality, which doesn't much support the ideal of fairness this decision seems designed to foster.

[stanley]

failhorse, what were you thinking trying to make a fair contest that everyone can participate in, and one in which everyone has a chance of winning, thats just plain stupid

[Failhorse]

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

What language exactly? Seriously. This is suppose to be a laid back image contest. I'm sorry if my rules for keeping a level playing field offend you. I'm not sorry for the fact you're lumping my rhetoric with a bunch of 12 year olds who play cartoonish dress up games. Seriously get fucked. Now that's something to be offended by.

I wanted to use GIMP so bad; I could have actually done some real image manipulation instead of just importing, warping, colouring, and erasing...

Also, handicapping people who have spent large amounts of time familiarizing themselves with an industry standard tool just because a few entrants might not have it is like forcing contestants in American Idol to do all their songs in grunts because some contestants might not have English as their first language. Maybe people without photoshop will do even better than the ones with it, just using the resources at hand. Maybe they won't. Either way, you're not improving their submissions in the slightest; the only thing you might accomplish is making everyone else's submission harder to produce or of lower quality, which doesn't much support the ideal of fairness this decision seems designed to foster.

I'm not looking for pro submissions. I was hoping many people would look at this as a laid back opportunity, and a time killer. The image is only half the representation. How this equates to grunting on American Idol just tells me you cannot be creative or interesting w/o the "industry standard."

In other words. Like almost every other contest we do. Gotta knit-pick, whine, and complain. Ergo, I'm not doing any more contests.

[Failhorse]

failhorse, what were you thinking trying to make a fair contest that everyone can participate in, and one in which everyone has a chance of winning, thats just plain stupid

This.

[HibiscusKazeneko]

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

What language exactly? Seriously. This is suppose to be a laid back image contest. I'm sorry if my rules for keeping a level playing field offend you. I'm not sorry for the fact you're lumping my rhetoric with a bunch of 12 year olds who play cartoonish dress up games. Seriously get fucked. Now that's something to be offended by.

What I took offense to was your line "Suck it up and get inventive." In case you haven't been paying attention, last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule that stated no future submissions were to contain ANY outside material, copyrighted, Creative Commons or otherwise. The administrators justified this by claiming it would help users be more creative, yet in fact it was stifling creativity for some of us. Outraged and knowing there was nothing I could do, I left the site for good and never tried to make Flash again.
Cartoonish dress-up games are one of the only kinds of content allowed on the site these days. Pop-culture parodies, music videos, video game parodies, etc. are banned outright, justified with scare tactics involving DMCA takedown notices and lawsuits by big corporations.

[megamoose]

The thing is... I am not good at doing any editing. Thank you for your honest opinions, as I will maybe try improve on this in the future. Thanks!

By the way, did my image appear or not?

[Failhorse]

What I took offense to was your line "Suck it up and get inventive." In case you haven't been paying attention, last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule that stated no future submissions were to contain ANY outside material, copyrighted, Creative Commons or otherwise. The administrators justified this by claiming it would help users be more creative, yet in fact it was stifling creativity for some of us. Outraged and knowing there was nothing I could do, I left the site for good and never tried to make Flash again.
Cartoonish dress-up games are one of the only kinds of content allowed on the site these days. Pop-culture parodies, music videos, video game parodies, etc. are banned outright, justified with scare tactics involving DMCA takedown notices and lawsuits by big corporations.

Most of this sounds like it's not mine nor critsandvich's problem. I could give 2 fucks, exactly, about newgrounds. Suck it up and get inventive sounds absolutely nothing like the rest of your little rant. First, mainly due to the fact it's a rule.. in a contest... that someone (me) came up with.. .Where I get to make the rules. Second, This is nothing like newgrounds. If suck it up and get inventive is too harsh for you. A) don't participate. B) harden the fuck up.

EDIT
Moreover. This is a contest. This isn't a content submission site. It's posting an image with some witty text. I'm just guessing but I assume you're the only one here who uses flash. And that's a separate issue entirely. But I'll take your rhetoric into consideration next time we do a flash game contest.

[GoDM1N]

last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule blah blah blah.

[megamoose]

last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule blah blah blah.

People who want to try.

[Prof_Schwartz]

Isn't this a contest? Why are we arguing over shit like this? Just make a funny pic involving our mascot and ENJOY YOURSELVES!!!

[Harri]

This entire situation amuses me to an astounding degree.


Nope. People here are just fucking stupid.

[megamoose]

Well, think of everyone, and how qualified / retarded they are. Just remember that nothing is un-obtainable.

[Ackybur]

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

What language exactly? Seriously. This is suppose to be a laid back image contest. I'm sorry if my rules for keeping a level playing field offend you. I'm not sorry for the fact you're lumping my rhetoric with a bunch of 12 year olds who play cartoonish dress up games. Seriously get fucked. Now that's something to be offended by.

What I took offense to was your line "Suck it up and get inventive." In case you haven't been paying attention, last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule that stated no future submissions were to contain ANY outside material, copyrighted, Creative Commons or otherwise. The administrators justified this by claiming it would help users be more creative, yet in fact it was stifling creativity for some of us. Outraged and knowing there was nothing I could do, I left the site for good and never tried to make Flash again.
Cartoonish dress-up games are one of the only kinds of content allowed on the site these days. Pop-culture parodies, music videos, video game parodies, etc. are banned outright, justified with scare tactics involving DMCA takedown notices and lawsuits by big corporations.

Relevent

[AuronV3]

1) I take serious offense to this rhetoric. This is the exact language that forced me to leave Newgrounds.
2) How about GIMP? It's free and anyone can use it.

What language exactly? Seriously. This is suppose to be a laid back image contest. I'm sorry if my rules for keeping a level playing field offend you. I'm not sorry for the fact you're lumping my rhetoric with a bunch of 12 year olds who play cartoonish dress up games. Seriously get fucked. Now that's something to be offended by.

What I took offense to was your line "Suck it up and get inventive." In case you haven't been paying attention, last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule that stated no future submissions were to contain ANY outside material, copyrighted, Creative Commons or otherwise. The administrators justified this by claiming it would help users be more creative, yet in fact it was stifling creativity for some of us. Outraged and knowing there was nothing I could do, I left the site for good and never tried to make Flash again.
Cartoonish dress-up games are one of the only kinds of content allowed on the site these days. Pop-culture parodies, music videos, video game parodies, etc. are banned outright, justified with scare tactics involving DMCA takedown notices and lawsuits by big corporations.

DON'T NEED DRAMA. DON'T NEED DRAMA. DEFINITELY DON'T NEED IT.

[Slappy]

I vote failhorse deletes all the non picture related posts and we continue. Because this idea was funny and now this thread is not

[Failhorse]

I've already given up on it and don't really care. It takes a lot to peeve me off. And i'm not talking the OMG ded from crits 4 times in a row pissed either. The utter stupidity of the whole argument can be summed up with a comparision to the time I got drunk and got into an argument with my kitchen table.

[stanley]

I've already given up on it and don't really care. It takes a lot to peeve me off. And i'm not talking the OMG ded from crits 4 times in a row pissed either. The utter stupidity of the whole argument can be summed up with a comparision to the time I got drunk and got into an argument with my kitchen table.

next time, it would be great if you could record that

[Prof_Schwartz]

I've already given up on it and don't really care. It takes a lot to peeve me off. And i'm not talking the OMG ded from crits 4 times in a row pissed either. The utter stupidity of the whole argument can be summed up with a comparision to the time I got drunk and got into an argument with my kitchen table.

next time, it would be great if you could record that

I totally agree with Stanley's statement

[mrpikmin2]

last December Newgrounds made a blanket rule blah blah blah.

yep. yep.


People Whining about small rules is why we can't have nice things. Make your own contest where photoshop is allowed if you must. Or play tf2. That might work too.

[Failhorse]

This is all the crap that was split off from my contest thread. I'm leaving it here and open. I want this to be a reminder to everyone. If your going to be fat headed and create an illogical argument for something that is none of your god damn business. You better do a Hibiscus and high tail the fuck out of my forum.

Actually I'm coining the hibiscus
Verb
to depart from permanently; quit:

example

The hard ass people hibiscus to do their own thing.


disclaimer: I say "my forum" in the sense of who the fuck really cares.

[Maringue]

While this may be a moot point at this time, I'd just like to point out the obvious:

Failhorse is providing all the prizes for this contest, so he gets to make whatever rules he deems fair. If he wanted to have a contest for the smelliest farts, he could say you needed a notarized document from a proctologist if he wanted. Although if he did have this contest, he might as well give all the prizes to me and not bother.

When you provide the prizes for a contest, then you get to make whatever rules you want.

end of line

[jawsh]

This is why we can't have nice things?

[Vivi Hill]

Well that was a lot of pointless whining...

[jawsh]

I'm here for the whining.. is it too late?