im lazy

[duck]

http://pophangover.com/2010/09/09/pop-s ... explained/

but this is so true

[Nikki Wolf]

Justin Bieber - I can tolerate some
Ke$ha - You're a fucking $lut, go back to sucking 3OH!3's dick
Lady Gaga - I actually like
Miley Cyrus - Britney Spears of this generation

Reminds me of some conversations I have had with various people with the topic of music.

[Harri]

Lady gaga is insanely talented. I would like to note that there is really nothing about gaga that is slutty. Girls who are almost naked are not sluts. Girls who only talk about getting penis, and only measure their self-value to the amount of penis they get (Ke$ha) are still not sluts.

Slut is a horrid word. It has no assigned purpose but to demean.
This is sexism.

Now, if they were selling their bodies for sex- whore can be applied. It's also a horrid word, but it implies a profession.

This is just my feminist input of the day.

[SpoonFox]

Lady gaga is insanely talented. I would like to note that there is really nothing about gaga that is slutty. Girls who are almost naked are not sluts. Girls who only talk about getting penis, and only measure their self-value to the amount of penis they get (Ke$ha) are still not sluts.

Slut is a horrid word. It has no assigned purpose but to demean.
This is sexism.

Now, if they were selling their bodies for sex- whore can be applied. It's also a horrid word, but it implies a profession.

This is just my feminist input of the day.

I think Beiber should be in the slut catagory. You know how many guys he probably attempts to bang behind stage? >.>;

Anyways...

Slut isn't always demean... I know people who proudly wear 'slut' as a title ~_~ (I tend to avoid folks like that >.>)

Whore I've seen people take more offense to. They prefer being called physical therapists or hos.

[Maringue]

Lady gaga is insanely talented. I would like to note that there is really nothing about gaga that is slutty. Girls who are almost naked are not sluts. Girls who only talk about getting penis, and only measure their self-value to the amount of penis they get (Ke$ha) are still not sluts.

Slut is a horrid word. It has no assigned purpose but to demean.
This is sexism.

Now, if they were selling their bodies for sex- whore can be applied. It's also a horrid word, but it implies a profession.

This is just my feminist input of the day.

Would scank be a more appropriate word? Because there's gotta be something I can call her to describe the 3 sexually transmitted diseases I get just from listening to her single.

If Keshia was a man, I'd be calling her a man-whore.

[Harri]

I just say:

"Oh god It's that white bitch again. Change it!"

Bitch, untalented, disgusting, ugly, horrid- all diction associated with her name. ( It's all demeaning) Well, if I had to apply slut to any artist it would be Ke$ha, she even has songs were she calls herself a slut.

This bitch

VS the amazing

Mommy Monster

[Echoplex]

Kesha is just studio music. I don't think that she's claiming to have any artistic integrity or trying to be a performance artist but it's identical to shit like the Black Eyed Peas in that it's just not meant to be performed live and it's produced with the intention of getting radio play time and making 16 year old girls empty out their cyber-pockets on iTunes

(and if you want to hear REALLY terrible)

[GoDM1N]

Lady gaga is insanely talented.

After reading this I knew this post was a troll

[Mike808]

freddie mercury is talented

[Harri]

Lady gaga is insanely talented.

After reading this I knew this post was a troll

Alright retard crack baby

[GoDM1N]

Alright retard crack baby

Thats sexiest

[Harri]

Alright retard crack baby

Thats sexiest

Sexiest?

Why thanks. I know I'm something!

[Ackybur]

freddie mercury is talented

^This. Nothing really compares to what true talent was back in the day. Ke$ha isn't anywhere near that and Lady Gaga pretends it. They are nothing more than a fad. Lady Gaga one of a kind and not afraid to be herself? Whatevvver, she looks like a futuristic Cyndi Lauper. I'm tired of this bull crap clogging our radio waves. Where are the songs like Limelight, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Head over Heels? That stuff was good and oozed with real talent...It's a shame to see talent being made for a few thousand dollars an hour. None of these people can sing live and it's disheartening.



And no Gaga isn't a great singer live, she's extremely nasally.

[Harri]

freddie mercury is talented

^This. Nothing really compares to what true talent was back in the day. Ke$ha isn't anywhere near that and Lady Gaga pretends it. They are nothing more than a fad. Lady Gaga one of a kind and not afraid to be herself? Whatevvver, she looks like a futuristic Cyndi Lauper. I'm tired of this bull crap clogging our radio waves. Where are the songs like Limelight, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Head over Heels? That stuff was good and oozed with real talent...It's a shame to see talent being made for a few thousand dollars an hour. None of these people can sing live and it's disheartening.



And no Gaga isn't a great singer live, she's extremely nasally.

I thought you were a Gaga fan? T.T

I still love her. I'll just stew in my love for her alone.

[Harri]

Also, Adele?

[duck]

freddie mercury is talented

^This. Nothing really compares to what true talent was back in the day. Ke$ha isn't anywhere near that and Lady Gaga pretends it. They are nothing more than a fad. Lady Gaga one of a kind and not afraid to be herself? Whatevvver, she looks like a futuristic Cyndi Lauper. I'm tired of this bull crap clogging our radio waves. Where are the songs like Limelight, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Head over Heels? That stuff was good and oozed with real talent...It's a shame to see talent being made for a few thousand dollars an hour. None of these people can sing live and it's disheartening.



And no Gaga isn't a great singer live, she's extremely nasally.

i love rush

[GoDM1N]

freddie mercury is talented

^This. Nothing really compares to what true talent was back in the day. Ke$ha isn't anywhere near that and Lady Gaga pretends it. They are nothing more than a fad. Lady Gaga one of a kind and not afraid to be herself? Whatevvver, she looks like a futuristic Cyndi Lauper. I'm tired of this bull crap clogging our radio waves. Where are the songs like Limelight, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Head over Heels? That stuff was good and oozed with real talent...It's a shame to see talent being made for a few thousand dollars an hour. None of these people can sing live and it's disheartening.



And no Gaga isn't a great singer live, she's extremely nasally.

Don't forget

or this guy who sounds like a girl so it counts

Also if we were to compare Lady Gaga to any real artist or ANY band thats become "big" over the last 5 years while we're on the matter to a real artist they'd all look like talentless, douchebags, wannabes and would be next to Rebecca Black and Jenna Rose

[GoDM1N]

i love rush

Also I'll throw in a Phish as well

[Mike808]

freddie mercury is talented

^This. Nothing really compares to what true talent was back in the day. Ke$ha isn't anywhere near that and Lady Gaga pretends it. They are nothing more than a fad. Lady Gaga one of a kind and not afraid to be herself? Whatevvver, she looks like a futuristic Cyndi Lauper. I'm tired of this bull crap clogging our radio waves. Where are the songs like Limelight, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Head over Heels? That stuff was good and oozed with real talent...It's a shame to see talent being made for a few thousand dollars an hour. None of these people can sing live and it's disheartening.



And no Gaga isn't a great singer live, she's extremely nasally.

i only listen to old moosic sorta. like airsupply, journey, queen, etc

[doppelganger]

freddie mercury is talented

^This. Nothing really compares to what true talent was back in the day. Ke$ha isn't anywhere near that and Lady Gaga pretends it. They are nothing more than a fad. Lady Gaga one of a kind and not afraid to be herself? Whatevvver, she looks like a futuristic Cyndi Lauper. I'm tired of this bull crap clogging our radio waves. Where are the songs like Limelight, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Head over Heels? That stuff was good and oozed with real talent...It's a shame to see talent being made for a few thousand dollars an hour. None of these people can sing live and it's disheartening.



And no Gaga isn't a great singer live, she's extremely nasally.

i only listen to old moosic sorta. like airsupply, journey, queen, etc

You're Asian, it doesn't count... don't all Asians sing old-lounge music at a karaoke bar?

(Yes, I just trumped your sexism with racism.)

[Trauma Advocate]

The one noun that can best be used to describe Lady Gaga is "Madonna."

[Harri]

The one noun that can best be used to describe Lady Gaga is "Madonna."

Yes. Or glam performer. If anyone knows anything about theater and performance they would know, immediately, that Gaga, Madonna, Kiss etc,. are all glam performers. It is a form of art in itself. I have a degree in this shit, no you can't disagree with me.


I have [a] degree(s) in literature and play wrighting, but none of you need know that!

[GoDM1N]

The one noun that can best be used to describe Lady Gaga is "Madonna."

Yes. Or glam performer. If anyone knows anything about theater and performance they would know, immediately, that Gaga, Madonna, Kiss etc,. are all glam performers. It is a form of art in itself. I have a degree in this shit, no you can't disagree with me.


I have [a] degree(s) in literature and play wrighting, but none of you need know that!

It may be art but its still shit

[Harri]

The one noun that can best be used to describe Lady Gaga is "Madonna."

Yes. Or glam performer. If anyone knows anything about theater and performance they would know, immediately, that Gaga, Madonna, Kiss etc,. are all glam performers. It is a form of art in itself. I have a degree in this shit, no you can't disagree with me.


I have [a] degree(s) in literature and play wrighting, but none of you need know that!

It may be art but its still shit

Or so you say. They are big because someone thinks their amazing. Isn't it amazing! Art functions like that; you are not god so your opinion doesn't matter. Art is eternal. Fuck, I don't even think God's opinion on art matters.

[Ackybur]

It might only be considered modern art because all modern art is, is taking something old and wonderful any copying it... But with o e minor change of course. Gagas change from Madonna is the fact she's not attractive where Madonna is.

[Harri]

It might only be considered modern art because all modern art is, is taking something old and wonderful any copying it... But with o e minor change of course. Gagas change from Madonna is the fact she's not attractive where Madonna is.

That's not all modern art! Anyone ever been to a modern art museum or exhibit? Also, pro tip! Madonna and Gaga are in the same art period. We haven't divided this period yet and given it any definite name.

Edit*: I kind of took that as offensive, sorry! I make money off of my art. I have no qualms calling myself an artist. My art is modern, and I do and do not mimic others. ALSO, I teach playwrighting. I have them mimic previous plays to help build their own creative identity. Perfectly acceptable. Gaga is giving homage to Madonna and other artists. She made their unique work her own stepping stone. She does the same thing many artists do.

Sorry, the only thing I get upset over is art and literature conversations. I've dedicated my life and education to art.

[Trauma Advocate]

Modern art is more or less a rejection of anything traditionally considered art. Most of it doesn't fly with me, but I'm not about to discount an entire genre based on that.

[Ackybur]

Modern art is more or less a rejection of anything traditionally considered art. Most of it doesn't fly with me, but I'm not about to discount an entire genre based on that.

Slapping paint on a canvas isn't art to me. A giant can of soup isn't art to me. Garbage in a pile isn't art to me. Art to me is using a real talent, real thought, and real emotion. Painting a canvas blue because you're sad won't fly by me. This applies to gaga because wrapping your hair in coke cans isn't art. It's product placement and cheap.

[Harri]

Modern art is more or less a rejection of anything traditionally considered art. Most of it doesn't fly with me, but I'm not about to discount an entire genre based on that.

We are now talking about two different "modern arts."

1. Modern art includes artistic works produced during the period extending roughly from the 1860s to the 1970s, and denotes the style and philosophy of the art produced during that era.The term is usually associated with art in which the traditions of the past have been thrown aside in a spirit of experimentation.

Trauma is correct on that.

2. Literally means- art within the last 30 years or so. Unclassified in an art category. Or it could be classified but it's (OH NO) modern.

[KillerProtist]

Going back to Lady GaGa. She would be tolerable for me if she wasn't like "LOOK AT HOW ECCENTRIC I AM, LOOK AT MEEEEEE" all the time. She tries way too hard.

[Harri]

Modern art is more or less a rejection of anything traditionally considered art. Most of it doesn't fly with me, but I'm not about to discount an entire genre based on that.

Slapping paint on a canvas isn't art to me. A giant can of soup isn't art to me. Garbage in a pile isn't art to me. Art to me is using a real talent, real thought, and real emotion. Painting a canvas blue because you're sad won't fly by me. This applies to gaga because wrapping your hair in coke cans isn't art. It's product placement and cheap.

This conversation is on:

Aesthetics- is a branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of beauty, art, and taste, and with the creation and appreciation of beauty. It is more scientifically defined as the study of sensory or sensori-emotional values, sometimes called judgments of sentiment and taste.

More broadly, scholars in the field define aesthetics as "critical reflection on art, culture and nature. (Thanks wiki)

We have aesthetics, just like we all have assholes.

[Ackybur]

Real art is my provocative ackbar to the right. So much emotion..so much meaning. Its the voice of our future

[GoDM1N]

Or so you say. They are big because someone thinks their amazing. Isn't it amazing! Art functions like that; you are not god so your opinion doesn't matter. Art is eternal. Fuck, I don't even think God's opinion on art matters.

We're comparing Leonardo de Vinci to the "art" kids make in the 3rd grade here. The "art" made in the 3rd grade its talentless, which is the point. And yes, Gaga will be FORGOTTEN in 5 years, so no, Gaga is not eternal.

[Harri]

Or so you say. They are big because someone thinks their amazing. Isn't it amazing! Art functions like that; you are not god so your opinion doesn't matter. Art is eternal. Fuck, I don't even think God's opinion on art matters.

We're comparing Leonardo de Vinci to the "art" kids make in the 3rd grade here. The "art" made in the 3rd grade its talentless, which is the point. And yes, Gaga will be FORGOTTEN in 5 years, so no, Gaga is not eternal.

Wut? That made no sense. Also, I never indicated that Lady gaga and art are the same. Art and all that it encompasses is eternal. Lady Gaga is a small part of the everlasting art movement.

[Ackybur]

Or so you say. They are big because someone thinks their amazing. Isn't it amazing! Art functions like that; you are not god so your opinion doesn't matter. Art is eternal. Fuck, I don't even think God's opinion on art matters.

We're comparing Leonardo de Vinci to the "art" kids make in the 3rd grade here. The "art" made in the 3rd grade its talentless, which is the point. And yes, Gaga will be FORGOTTEN in 5 years, so no, Gaga is not eternal.

Wut? That made no sense. Also, I never indicated that Lady gaga and art are the same. Art and all that it encompasses is eternal. Lady Gaga is a small part of the everlasting art movement.

Very small. Besides, attention whoring isn't a form of art.

[GoDM1N]

Or so you say. They are big because someone thinks their amazing. Isn't it amazing! Art functions like that; you are not god so your opinion doesn't matter. Art is eternal. Fuck, I don't even think God's opinion on art matters.

We're comparing Leonardo de Vinci to the "art" kids make in the 3rd grade here. The "art" made in the 3rd grade its talentless, which is the point. And yes, Gaga will be FORGOTTEN in 5 years, so no, Gaga is not eternal.

Wut? That made no sense. Also, I never indicated that Lady gaga and art are the same. Art and all that it encompasses is eternal. Lady Gaga is a small part of the everlasting art movement.

orly

Yes. Or glam performer. If anyone knows anything about theater and performance they would know, immediately, that Gaga, Madonna, Kiss etc,. are all glam performers. It is a form of art in itself.

So are you saying they're preforming art, but aren't artist?

And now back to the start

Lady gaga is insanely talented.

No, shes not. Shes a 3rd grade finger painter compared to REAL artist and the only reason shes so popular is because she has a penis. Or at least did before she cut it off

[Harri]

You are going in circles. I think gaga is amazing. That's my opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine. But, I'm arguing that yous guys are approaching this whole art "is bad because you say so" in a wrong way.

Art is art. Gaga and art are two different things. Gaga is a person that exhibits art. She sings, dances, puts on an ACT. I write and paint. Acky paints. We are artists, but we are not art!

Art is like the people you are attracted to. You find someone attractive, but your friend thinks that person is ugly as hell. Your FUCKING brain reacts to aesthetics. It does this to art. I love modern art, for an example, but Acky just listed why she thinks it's stupid.

IT'S STILL ART. You can't change it. You can choose to hate it, not look at it, boycott against it; but, it's still going to be there.

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS A REAL ARTIST? Because she has millions of dollars selling her art, and you thinking it's bad makes her not an artist?

Let me sum this up for yous guys. Your opinion only matters to you, and people who are like-minded. BECAUSE YOU CLAIM IT'S NOT ART, DOES NOT MAKE IT NOT ART.

Now that I've moved completely away from anything related to Gaga and raged a little inside I'm going to leave this thread alone. I've come to the conclusion that no one at CSn can hold a conversation with me about anything under the Art & Letters professions. Rage Rage Rage.

I'm done now.

[GoDM1N]

I'm not saying its not art, as I said the crap a 3rd grader makes in art class can be called art, hell I'm not even saying you cant like her, what we're saying is we think shes a talentless whore bag.

[Ackybur]

I'm not saying its not art, as I said the crap a 3rd grader makes in art class can be called art, hell I'm not even saying you cant like her, what we're saying is we think shes a talentless whore bag.

It's only art if you call it art. What is art? It's subjective. /thread