What do you want in your 2011 Sandvich?

[Failhorse]

Simple question. What do you want to see out of Sandvich this year? I'm talking server, website and blog. Post your ideas to help improve, and help us grow.





First I'd like to see a kick ass blog get off the ground. Second, I'd like to see some improvements to the websites from page.

What do you want?

[Amplify]

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[Nikki Wolf]

Maybe a fix in VS Saxton Hale? And a radio, like what Amp said.

[Amplify]

Also team balance that has nothing to do with K:D rate. Cause I often get the little retard who got 3 kills and then hide in the back.

[Toaster]

A new admin colour for "veteran admins" same as blue + perks from tfgn days

[General Omega]

Also team balance that has nothing to do with K:D rate. Cause I often get the little retard who got 3 kills and then hide in the back.

Team balance based on points is better.


Maybe we can have less upward?

[Mike808]

Also team balance that has nothing to do with K:D rate. Cause I often get the little retard who got 3 kills and then hide in the back.

Team balance based on points is better.


Maybe we can have less upward?

team balance based on the stats!

[Vivi Hill]

Team balance based on stats does NOT work. New players who are good get balanced as if they were bad. Think about it.

Team balance based on score does not work either. What if good players have just come in? Say the balance happens 1 minute after a good player like zclipse comes in. Perhaps he has 2 or 3 points already. Meanwhile, people who have been in the server from the beginning have points in the 30s and 40s. The newest players are then treated as the worst.

Team balance based on KDR works the best of anything that's available. Zclipse may have 3 kills, but he likely has zero deaths because he's quite good. His KDR is thus 3. If the high-scoring players have more deaths than kills, their KDR will be < 1. They'll be considered to be worse players.

I know it's not perfect. Someone who has just joined may have been lucky enough to get 3 kills even though in reality they suck. It's also not ideal for players like medics who usually have a kdr of close to 0. I could rewrite the plugin to take this into account but in the end KDR is accurate enough.

We could try a ratio of score and connection time, option 3. But I'm not sure if it'll be much better.

[Enigma]

Class Limits
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less goldrush, dustbowl, upward, badwater
more 5 point CPs
Team balance

[Amplify]

Team balance based on stats does NOT work. New players who are good get balanced as if they were bad. Think about it.
I know it's not perfect. Someone who has just joined may have been lucky enough to get 3 kills even though in reality they suck. It's also not ideal for players like medics who usually have a kdr of close to 0. I could rewrite the plugin to take this into account but in the end KDR is accurate enough.

We could try a ratio of score and connection time, option 3. But I'm not sure if it'll be much better.

Like. Also take in consideration the number of assist?

[Snowsickle]

The standard Score/Connect option has worked very well the times I have used it. KDR can fluctuate quite a bit depending on class you're playing and camping behavior. In my experience, score/time tends to be the best correlation to how much a person is contributing to the objective.

[Infamous]

You know what i want. a game like where there's a sandwhich and it eats you instead of it and you have to go through this obstacle course to survive o_o Just a thought

[LegendarySurgeon]

Team balance based on stats does NOT work. New players who are good get balanced as if they were bad. Think about it.
I know it's not perfect. Someone who has just joined may have been lucky enough to get 3 kills even though in reality they suck. It's also not ideal for players like medics who usually have a kdr of close to 0. I could rewrite the plugin to take this into account but in the end KDR is accurate enough.

We could try a ratio of score and connection time, option 3. But I'm not sure if it'll be much better.

Like. Also take in consideration the number of assist?

Players who have just joined will always be balanced awkwardly, it's hard to avoid that. If possible, you could integrate team scrambling with HLstatsX:CE which would allow you to effectively look at a record of that player's skill. This would mean that if a player like Zclipse joins right before a team scramble the game will be able to look and say, ah, yes, that's Zclipse, well, he's clearly not a bad player even though he has 0 kills. Obviously this system would need some work, but it seems like a good way to integrate new players into team balancing. HLstats is clearly not enough, though, because if someone really new joins a server, the server has no way of knowing how good they are; also players that come back and rack up hlstatsx points will be rated as better players. Obviously, looking at the game statistics is important here. It would obviously require some number crunching, but I'm sure some formula can be worked out for ranking the players in a way that includes both current game data and hlstatsx data.

[Ackybur]

You people over think this.

[Failhorse]

she only cares, now, cause you said zclipse.

[Ackybur]

she only cares, now, cause you said zclipse.

No.

[Vivi Hill]

Yeah, unfortunately I'm not the writer of our autoscrambler. It doesn't support multiple protocols at once

[duck]

i want to rip off as many people as i can (not scamming theres a difference) im also opening a position for someone to be my apprentice. pm me if interested

[Take That!!]

Unbiased admins.

[Mike808]

Unbiased admins.

ive never experienced the admins being biased and unfair, enlighten me

and a west coast server instead of arena maybe

[NuclearWatermelon]

For more people to stop whining.

[Failhorse]

Can we get back on track please? We still have a lot of growing to do. Everyone helped make us what we are. Can we gets something useful to talk about ?

[Ackybur]

Id like my sandwich to have a Take That with a less annoying voice. Shit it's giving me a migraine AMIRITE?!

[Failhorse]

argh. pointless