Dravved wrote:Failhorse wrote: Remove CSN and give pro players a clean place to play. What's the point in hosting it? Conversion to the site and donations would be non-existent. And pro players are dicks. Look at me. Tried it, did well, hated the community... I'll stick to skill pills and pootis.
What makes you think players that would play on those servers would want to donate in the first place? Even if you had messages and pop ups, they would just be seen as a nuisance and ignored. If you want to use the server for donations, then just make it LoveNest v2. However if you want to begin to undo the somewhat negative reputation that CSn has in the comp world, which would then lead to more word of mouth advertising, I would highly suggest doing what I said.
First, if none of the "pro players" who want a comp type server are going to donate, then they can go pay their own money to rent a server and set it up however they please.
And you can play the game with however much skill you want, but if you act like a shit faced cock master then you are going to end up playing in an empty server. I don't care if people are good, we have lots of good players here, but you can be good
AND not be a giant dick. I've never yelled at a player for playing with skill. I have yelled at people who sticky camp spawn doors, but that's not skill so I don't see an issue. And as an FYI, "He's a comp player" has never been a reason why someone didn't get admin.
"People that are good at TF2 come across as dicks." If you come across as a dick, you are a dick. We have some people who actually do what you are suggesting, ie mocking douchebags who take shit too seriously, but they know what they are doing and only do it to other people who get the joke. If Nicewithit kills me, he might say "rekt" or something because I get it. I've never seen him say that to a new player.
Here's your tl;dr to which I'll add some notes:
Remove any and all ads for the CSn community, outside of the server name
go pay for your own server then...Remove All Talk
this is a possible change, but it still won't pop the serverRemove Autobalance
because I'm sure comp players love to steam roll less skilled teams, that's so much fun...Add an item ban list (Use the UGC One)
Nope, all weapons are allowed. We're not banning a weapon because a few players don't like itBasically remove all rules outside of "Don't hack"
We have two rules, and you want to remove one of them. Refer to the first commentUse admins that actually play comp, or barring that, are highly skilled and understand the culture (Rosey, Trike, Fence, nicewithit, Snowsickle, Big Shovel, Shiny Mudkip, and myself are regulars who either play comp or are skilled enough to understand the culture behind it)
if by "understanding the culture" you mean "let me get away with bullshit and say whatever I want", then yeah, that's not happening...And since we are being real, Fail was right. There's a list of people (it changes) that always ask for a comp type server, no crit/spread, but are totally unwilling to populate it. More importantly, that list of people is usually pretty small, so even if everyone of the people who ever asked for a comp server all got into it at once, I don't think it would be full.
Also, I'd like to point out that this is the same "Help Help, I'm being persecuted" that both Christians and Republicans make. No one's persecuting anyone for being good at the game; if we're persecuting you it's because you're an asshole that's driving other players out of the server.
