Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby Thret » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:25 pm

Oh jeez, I completely forgot about The Firm. Those were the good ol' days when we weren't the only active NUBZ. Haha.
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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby Failhorse » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:20 pm

LegendarySurgeon wrote:
Failhorse wrote:The player Antonia was actually one of the first admins at TFGN. What was his name then?
-random strange to the first person who gets it right.
bonus if you can say why he left.


And then Failhorse never replied to the thread again.

8-)


Huh what?

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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby Thret » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:51 pm

What? That shifty bastard hasn't spoken to me in over a year. I don't think I've seen him online but once since I can back from my hiatus.


Also, don't both of you live in Chicago? Which would make things a lot easier.
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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby LegendarySurgeon » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:45 pm

Failhorse wrote:Huh what?


You haven't confirmed or denied any guesses and I felt pretty good about mine - my detective work was at least okay if not very enthusiastic.
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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby Repoman » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:59 pm

I know this is a terrible bump, but I was curious as to how many were from the fallen group? I came from there following Benny Hill, and I know a ton of others did as well. All of the people in the fallen group were admins/trial admins from the infamous Lotus Clan. I remember asking benny about joining a TF2 group he was in while I was in my technical school for the airforce. He said dont join 2 fingers, and join this new Csn group he was in. I joined in the third day Csn was around and played around in the slay boxes at the beginning of my air force career, with all my old Tf2 friends from Lotus/The fallen since apparently all of them were there. I then got interested in the original fun server and became one of its first admins, before pinkmins or colors existed. I was one of the first to test this "trial" system of admin, but honestly I just skipped it thanks to a certain ninja. Since then, its been about 2 years and Ive left and come back at least three times due to people annoying me. But after working in the air force for so long, having a girlfriend, arguing with people over the internet seems stupid.

But yeah, I have no idea why I all of sudden was obsessed with finding how I got here. I had to ask Bolo if Benny Hill was even in the fallen group, haha.
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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby GoDM1N » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:37 pm

Repoman wrote: I have no idea why I all of sudden was obsessed with finding how I got here.


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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby Repoman » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:51 pm

GoDM1N wrote:
Repoman wrote: I have no idea why I all of sudden was obsessed with finding how I got here.


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I agree with this.
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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby Vintage Cholent » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:08 pm

Like Repo said before, there was a growing disdain for some of the lotus admins which resulted in a mass exodus of the comp players (plasma waffle, luminal, dr. dragon, enigma and others) to create a new group called THE FALLEN (Dramatic voice). Due to some unforseen skrimishes between some of the admins of the group (one of whom is hands down the best spy [ie. 10 to 15 kills a life] I have ever competed against) many of us stopped playing tf2 but then benjamin hill advised us to join this group and things got much better. I became a fun server admin and helped figure out some of the map kinks and policies. Overall it was awesome finding a lot of former TF's and new ninjas (female and male) to play comp with on a fun server. The key motivator in my move to CSN was that many of the none IO servers I played on had bots to generate server traffic to decieve potential players. Lotus did this frequently to generate traffic, I am happy CSN doesn't.
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Re: Meet the Critsandvich.. Our definitive history.

Postby MrElTacoTeh3rd » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:27 pm

Failhorse wrote:This has come up a few times recently. Instead of typing it out quickly in Steam chat, I thought I'd leave a definitive source for the future.
Note: This will be edited for content, humor, and grammar when I'm not at work.
Also Note: If you have something to add. Feel free to add it.
Admins can just edit this post. Use a different color and reference in a reply. Anyone else just post a reply, and I'll edit.

Like most gaming groups. Perhaps all of them. Critsandvichs' roots come from a few disgruntled gamers from other gaming communities. Oddly this is already the third, and largest, incarnation in 2 years. Many people have come and gone... And some have come back again. This is from my perspective. Dealing with the major happenings that created the first 2 communities, leading into Critsandvich. I know tons of people have come from elsewhere. But, I think this is what created our foundation.

The "early" days

Let's flash back to December 2009. The War! update was upon us. A core group of what became The Firm was busy muscling out Demo/Soldier kills on the FUG servers. Then, 2 days before the update was out. FUG was down for the count. A scism of sorts. Maybe a power play. Not our business. And not the point of this thread. We had 1 major issue. No place to play. At least not like anything we were use to. The open, all-talk, "fun" gameplay servers were few and far between. FUG's meltdown scattered friends' lists all across the TF2 spectrum. And quickly small groups started servers/communities of their own.

One faithful night a Firm member named "DC" messaged me on Steam. He was looking for help with a server he just bought with a few other people. The Doctors! Yes this is where Harri started. As well as Ackbar and several others (edit your name in here.) DC couldn't get the server to get off of cp_well. I know this seems funny now. But it was a different time. The Firm was looking for someone with server experience. As well as someone who could get the Nubz clan on a server. Guaranteeing at least a dozen more regulars.

So, on the day of the actual War! update. The Firm was born. And immediately became a powerhouse. With the influx of players due to the update, a ton of homeless people, and a little help from fake clients... Again it was a different time. Could not compete without them. 2 servers were easily managed and full 24/7.

And then crap hit the fan. Within weeks Fug was back up with new servers. And a major group of Fug admins created Free Frag. Many returned to what they saw as comfortable. Or at least the old IPs back in their favorites list. This was a big hit for the Firm. To make matters more difficult. The same week Valve patched the easy way to create fake clients. Troppmann was brought on. He had loads of server experience and wrote several mods that kept us going for a bit. Soon after DC left due to some controversy and transferred server ownership to Troppman and myself. In the end cash was king. And not the admin (sorry bro.) I think Battlefield 2 came out. Or some similar game that sapped the TF2 playtime from many of the core admins. Without fake clients and without a dedicated group of people to pop the servers. The cash reserve depleted. Our major competition still had fake clients... So most of our base was officially gone. Sprinkle in some gaming drama, admin inexperience, and a dash of douchebaggery... Troppmann and I decided to move The Firm in a new direction.

The drunken name change

So Troppmann and I were in a band together. I believe the night shit finally collapsed we were playing a show at the Elbo Room. Watching the end game drama unfold on the website. We sat at a table, drunk, trying to come up with a name that would fit tfgn.org. And that's how "two fingers" was born. The admin troubles were rooted out... Or not, depending on how you want to take it. But we still had the problem of 2 empty overpriced servers. We also just disenfranchised most of the remaining player base. Pretty much the only people left were the admins; Joss, Maringue, Colander, Snowsickle, Squirrlmstr. A bit later Ackbar.

Slowly TFGN was rebuilt. A conversation 1 night with a fellow named Smeemo changed everything. Around the same time Joss left us to start the MB group. With Smeemo around, a deal was struck to sponsor the clan Enigma. They dropped their pub server. In return we gave them a match server, and they'd pub on ours. Our player base quickly grew. And once again we were supporting 3 servers. And a group of well trained, popping soldiers kept us full. Our steam group would hit 6k, but like always there was a problem. We lacked a working donor platform. We were also hemorrhaging money... At the time we used high-end server providers separately. The costs were adding up, and the donations were few and far between.

3 major players joined us all around the same time. Benny, Psyk and BP. Each giving something special that would leave lasting marks on the community. And our specific "flavor" of TF2. I'll leave that one for some self discovery on how. I think by this point the remnants of The Firm finally collaped in on it's own Canadian <adjective>.

The first "Fun" server was created. We gained a total of 3 new servers. But donations and a crappy website, designed by some idiot, were still hurting the community. Even though 3 servers were free. We didn't have the people to support 9 total. Yes we had 9 servers, and a community 1/3 the size of what Critsandvich is today. Again we saw the slow implosion. And Troppmann decided to downsize the community a bit.

And then a wild Fingerman appeared. Not the Fingerman we know today. The asshole that would demo the whole time and exploit every god damn thing on every map.... Asshole. But it was fun to watch him and Rex go at it.

With the recent downsize. Much of the community activity was off essentially what Troppmann dropped a ton of money on. There was an issue with control on certain community functions. Tropp wasn't happy with a few people. Not wanted the past to repeat itself... I am leaving out some idiotic details here. ...
The past did repeat itself. This time I took the side I thought was best for the community. In return we lost Troppmann and most of what TFGN had built up. With another quick admin meeting. And slightly more thought into the name. Critsandvich was born.

Third time is the charm?

So... Now you know gaming communities are cursed. Critsandvich has already had a share of it's own drama. We've lost some good people. We've gained others. And some just come and go like they own the fucking place.

So how did you find us?


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